Re: RE:Cotoneaster and acquiring seeds. Hyacinth Bean

This is listed as Dolichos lab-lab on p. 90 of their 1998 catalog by

Thompson & Morgan   1-800-274.7333
P O Box 1308 Jackson  N J  08527

It flowers profusely all thru the summer on vines that will cover the roof;
in late fall the flowers at the tip (on the roof!) burst into a wave of
succulent purple pods thtat turn green when boiled.  You can also eat the
flowers and the young leaves at any time.

A tropical plant, put it into the ground where it is going to stay, around
May.  It germinates easily, but you can scratch and then soak it briefly
to have speedier germination.  I don't like to soak it for long, for if it
overswells in the shell it may abort.

By the way, if you don't snitch seeds whenever you can, you are just an
amateur!                                            Geoff

-----Original Message-----
From: Chavez, Tim A <Tim.Chavez@Wichita.BOEING.com>
To: 'seeds-list@eskimo.com' <seeds-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 12:20 PM
Subject: RE:Cotoneaster and acquiring seeds.


>I feel strongly that we gardeners should be a sharing sort, but that we
also
>have a sense of what's right. I knocked on a door for weeks and got no
>answer before I snagged a purple pod of a Hyacinth bean from a neighborhood
>light pole. I wanted to have permission but couldn't catch anybody at home.
>I couldn't find it in a catalog. In this case, both the seeds AND the
blooms
>are what makes the plant so decorative, and taking pods is no different
than
>taking blooms. This is something which I teach my kids not to do unless
they
>have permission. If a gardener told me that I would have to steal them, as
>in a story told yesterday, I would immediately beg that person (while
>smiling a gardeners smile) not to train me to be a thief or to teach my
>children such a thing. The best pleasures are freely given and taken  and
we
>are all responsible for being on both ends, or else the circle breaks down.
>Lets acknowledge that acquiring seeds covertly has its cheap thrill (yes I
>admit it), and go on to cultivate our own better angels the same way we
>cultivate our flowers and children. (I am encouraging, not scolding)
>
>In addition I have a cotoneaster question. I have seen the ground cover
>cotoneaster on both coasts, but not in the heat or cold extremes of the
>central plains. Does anybody know of a any low growing varieties seen in
the
>Zone 6 area, especially more centrally located. I have tried things from
>Pennsylvania's zone 6, but sometimes they can't take our Kansas heat.
>
>
> Tim Chavez
> Wichita, Kansas, zone 6
> No hard freeze yet, over a month late and I'm not complaining.
>Roses, mums, verbena, all are blooming fine.
> Some things have withered from the night cold which seldom dips to
>30 F. My garden is going to sleep more gently this year and I am enjoying
>it.
>
>
>
>
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