Re: LILIES: Oriental
- To: s*@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
- Subject: Re: [SG] LILIES: Oriental
- From: J*
- Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 05:50:34 -0500
Claire Said:
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>Disease is a problem is you plant them where lilies have grown before. Also
>the orientals are of different biological makeup.
Jennifer says:
I have found disease to only be a problem where lilies have grown before if
the lilies in that same spot previously where diseases. Could you expland
further on what you mean by 'different biological makeup' please?
Claire Said:
>You receive them at peak
>size for a splendid display of bloom. The following year the bulb divides
>into many small bulbs and may take some years to attain that large blooming
>size again.
Jennifer says:
This is interesting. You mean that the bulb actually splits and produces actual
perfect little bulbsor the bulb seems to crumble or come apart> Do these
smaller
bulbs produce foliage and not bloom, or do they grow and produce bloom?
Claire said:
>One advice given is to plant in the fall and plant very deeply. I seem to
>remember this information from a lecture on lilies that I attended. <snip>
Jennifer says:
I have always been told that in our cold zone climate the Orientals are best
planted in Spring, never thought to ask why, but I will in the next time I am
speaking with Dr. Ronald or Barry Strohman. Different zone practises having
to do with the climate I am sure.
Claire said:
>There is one Oriental hybrid named Black Beauty that is around again and this
>one seems to defy all negatives and live forever.
Jennifer says:
I have 2 Black Beauty in my garden. One is a diploid and the other is a
tetraploid.
They look identical except that the tetraploid has much more substance to
bloom petals
and the blooms are a little larger but not that much and the stem is much
stronger.
The Register says that it has L.henryi in it which is why I am sure that it
is much
more resistant to disease then other Oriental hybrids and the L. speciosum
gives it
the beauty.
However from my experience unless the dealer tells you it is a Tet. or a Dip.
it is not possible to tell the different between the two bulbs just by
looking at the bulb.
This is what the Register has to say about Black Beauty (original)
VII (d) Black Beauty cl.
Parentage:
(L. speciosum var. rubrum x L. henryi)
Hybridizer:
R:&N: L.Woodriff, c.1957. Woodriff cat. 1958.
Description:
Very dark red, centre green, margins white; fls L. speciosum type.
Stems 1.2-1.9m.
July. AM 1972.
Claire, please tell us about your Lily Garden.
Best Regards
Jennifer Bishop
Zone 3
Winnipeg, MB CA
