Good afternoon: I saw the note asking about discussion groups about plants. I try to maintain as complete of list as possible: Go to: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/1945/maillists.html You can subscribe/unsubscribe or send mail to most (if not all) of the current plant related email lists from these pages. Note they are divided into outdoor and indoor plants (at least for us northerners). If any of you have web pages, please add the link to our shadegarden webpage. Diana Pederson SUITE101 Editor: http://www.suite101.com/topics/page.cfm/262 Home page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/1945/index.html