Some of you have been looking for sources for ivy. Try squaw mountain by emailing HenNChicks@AOL.Com I've done business with them in the past. They have a great selection of sedums and sempervivums--I think the best in the nation but also have an outstanding selection of ivies with hardiness zones ranging from zone 3 to zone 7. Looks like a great selection. Just received catalog this p.m. Diana Pederson SUITE101 Editor: http://www.suite101.com/topics/page.cfm/262 Home page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/1945/index.html