Gary, Thanks for the info. I have Cabaret on next year's list. Is it as big as Cosmo? > About that P.Bissetti< Dont under estimate its ability to spread. get > yourself some aluminum chimney flashing about 14 inches wide spade open > a trench and install it around in a design that you like. I winder if my neighbors will like it. I put it in the back of the border about 5' from the property fence. Will mowing it off as it spreads be an adequate control? I guess that I still have time to install the flashing. Thanks. Rick Grazzini