Re: UNREGISTERED SIBERIANS


IMHO the single most important service AIS provides is registration.
Developing judging criteria is a two edged sword but still rates as the
second most important service of AIS. There are significant advantages to
all to have all commercially distributed irises registered. Any significant
improvement in hardiness, geographic adaptability, disease or pest
resistance makes a cultivar worthy of introduction. This is true not only of
deliberate hybridization but also of natural hybridization. I would
encourage you to register your selected natural hybrids. There is increasing
interest in species appearance cultivars.

Mankind selects cultivars based on aesthetic characteristics, not survival.
Survival is difficult to determine as long as it survives in the
hybridizer's garden.

When a person compares the performance of 20 new introductions to 20 older
cultivars still in circulation, it is an imbalanced comparison. The older
cultivars are the end result of the survival of the fittest. The other
introductions that came out at the same time as the older cultivars did not
survive just like many of the new wouldn't survive the test of time.

Harold Peters
Beautiful View Iris Garden
El Dorado Hills, CA      USDA zone 9
harold@directcon.net  www.beautiful-view-iris.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Leroy Kriese <ambrosia@silk.net>
To: <sibrob@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [sibrob] UNREGISTERED SIBERIANS


>
> Hello Howard,
>
> Perhaps you can comment on what you think of unregistered introductions.
> Anyone else just jump in.
>
> I have listed two plants for sale this year that are not registered. Both
> are species selections that I feel are good enough or have qualities that
> make them desirable garden plants. They are cloned selections, nature has
> done the hybridizing and I have made the selection. Both have been grown
> down to zone 2 and under widely different soil types and climates. I have
> been growing them for more than 5 years and they were weeded out from 100s
> of other seedlings.
>
> My thinking is that they are not worth the trouble to register since they
> will only be available on a limited basis, and they are only species
> selections. If they were crosses that I had made between hybrids and
thought
> them good enough, I would register them.
>
> I have put a name to both, one is a tall setosa and the other is a
Siberian.
> I had many requests to sell them and a lot of people really liked them,
> although I often wondered if that was due to whether they really thought
the
> plants were that good or just because it would be something a little
unique
> for their garden.
>
> Hopefully I will have more time to make more crosses this year and get
> something that will put me on the way to registering something that is
> really worth registering.
>
> I don't believe in registering everything that comes along, it would just
> clog up the registry. I hear that the Hosta registry is very picky that
the
> plant must actually be something new and different - you have to prove it.
>
> The latest Hemerocallis registry came out, people are registering 50+
> Hemerocallis at a time. NO ONE can tell me that they can come up with that
> many unique plants to register in one year - RIDICULOUS!
>
> I also think that a plant should be trialed before making the decision to
> register. I have noticed that more recent registered introductions of
modern
> day Siberians appear to be weak growers or poor bloomers. A common
complaint
> from my customers has been that some of these so called fancy modern day
> Siberians, don't bloom in colder zones.
>
> I hate to see a plant that was once highly regarded for its toughness and
> propensity to perform lose its reputation.
>
> Leroy Kriese, Ambrosia Gardens
> http://www.silk.net/personal/ambrosia/index.htm
> Zone 5, Vernon, BC  Canada
>
>
>
>
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