RE: Highest budcount Sibs


Hi Marty,

Yes, it was incredible.  It was in virgin soil and in its first year put up 6 stalks with all but one having a third branch.  It continues to be one of the earliest to bloom and the one of the latest to finish.  A definite keeper.

Maureen 
Ottawa, Ontario

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	sibrob@yahoogroups.com [s*@yahoogroups.com]  On Behalf Of Jpwflowers@aol.com
Sent:	December 20, 2005 11:58 AM
To:	sibrob@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [sibrob] Highest budcount Sibs

Hi Maureen, I'm so impressed with the way you grow Banish Misfortune. 
Though it's always had a high bud count in its home garden, 14 is 
really incredible.  The highest bud count we've had on a siberian was 
10 on Forward And Back, a sibirica.  It has five buds in the terminal 
and two or three branches.  We consider Gentle Lass pretty high at 6 
buds per stalk and one of its siblings that was not as pretty had 7 or 
8.

One might think that high bud count and multiple branches usually occur 
with plants with small flowers, but two of the largest flowered 
seedlings in our garden have three branches and seven buds.  One of 
them is a child of Bob and Judy's Sultan's Ruby and has the largest 
flowers I've ever seen in a diploid.

On the question of the white sanguinea X white sibirica, Sporting 
Chance is an example of that cross.  It and all of its siblings were 
blue violet.  I echo Bob's recommendation of Snow Prince as the way to 
go for a white sibirica.  It has been a fantastic addition to the 
siberian gene pool.  I have also gotten white sibiricas from the SIGNA 
seed exchange and they have added some interest to our seedlings.

One word of caution - the plant known as 'Sibirica Nana Alba' can be 
very confusing.  While its name suggests that it is a white sibirica, 
it is actually a white sanguinea.  This comes from a time when manyl 
siberians, whether sibirica or sanguinea, were called sibirica by some 
because they are in the section sibiricae.  Another example of this 
confusion is the plant 'Sibirica Schwann' which is also a white 
sanguinea.

Season's Greetings to all, Marty Schafer
Carlisle, MA

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark.Maureen@fin.gc.ca
To: sibrob@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:53:12 -0500
Subject: RE: [sibrob] Highest budcount Sibs

  Hi Jim,

The highest bud count in my garden has been Banish Misfortune.  I 
counted 14
buds on one stalk!

Maureen
Ottawa, Ontario

 -----Original Message-----
 From:   sibrob@yahoogroups.com [s*@yahoogroups.com]  On 
Behalf Of Jim
Murphy
Sent:   December 19, 2005 8:35 PM
To: sibrob@yahoogroups.com
Subject:    [sibrob] Highest budcount Sibs

 Hi all,
 Jim Murphy here in still icy and frozen North Garden, Va.
  I enjoyed Calvin Helsley's article in TSI which I just reread. The 
high
bud count intrigued me, and I was wondering if everyone could list a 
few
that have high bud count ( or branching) in their gardens.
 I have few that have ever had more than 4 buds. CORONATION ANTHEM is
one, and some seedlings of mine of older form out of a Caesars Brother
grandchild. Jim





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