Re: Re: Welcome to sibrob

Thanks for the lead. I'll check Tranquil Lake Nursery out.

I also have had only mixed success with Butter and Sugar. From my experience
I think it might be more sensistive to soil PH than many (most) siberians,
as it did pretty good for me here in Denver when in a pot (with a neutral
potting soil mixed about half and half with peat moss thus making the soil
mix acidic), but is barely surviving now that it has been in the main bed
for a couple of months --and the main bed, even in spite of all the peat
moss I added, is probably still on the alkaline side because of the large
amount of calcium bentonite that naturally occurs here in the subsoil. Out
of the 81 Siberians I planted out this spring, Butter and Sugar is one of
only 3 that do not look happy (and both of the other 2 were quite
small/struggling when I planted them out). When I lived in Iowa I planted a
dozen or so Siberians around the printshop where I worked and they all did
fine except for Butter and Sugar (it eventually died out completely)  -- and
the soil there was naturally on the alkaline side and I didn't do anything
to improve it. Also when I lived in Michigan I remember a friend complaining
about how his Butter and Sugar just wouldn't increase -- he had it planted
next to a concrete sidewalk and the lime there may have been a problem -- 
especially since he later moved it out into a mixed perennial bed in the
center of his yard and then it took off.

Has anyone else noticed particular varities that appear to be more PH
sensitive than the norm?

Best Regards,
Arthur Goodwin

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Subject: Re: [sibrob] Re: Welcome to sibrob


> Hi Arthur, I just tried the website of Tranquil Lake Nursery in
> Rehoboth, MA.  They list several of the varieties you are looking for
> including Dewful, Cool Spring and Tropic Night.  I've never ordered
>  from them so don't know anything about their plants.  Many years ago we
> went there and saw the most fantastic  and beautiful planting of Butter
> and Sugar, which we haven't been able to grow well.  Their prices are
> reasonable.  They also sell daylilies.  Marty Schafer, Carlisle, MA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Goodwin <ArthurGoodwin@netscape.com>
> To: sibrob@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:44:12 -0600
> Subject: [sibrob] Re: Welcome to sibrob
>
>   >New members are invited to send a brief introduction to the list.
>
> Hi!   I just joined the robin and per the info from the robin
> moderator/owner's welcome message I thought I'd let everyone know a bit
> about myself and my garden. I've liked Siberians since I first grew
> them in
> the 1980s when I lived in Cohasset, CA (at 3500 feet in the northern
> Sierra
> Nevada where I had a small nursery that mostly grew asiatic lilies).
> During
> the 1990s I moved around a lot for work (Iowa, Michigan, etc.) and
> didn't
> really ever have any place to grow anything. I now live in Denver, CO
> and
> finally have a place to plant things again. This spring I put in a big
> bed
> (48x 12 feet) that I plan to eventually fill up with Siberian Iris,
> Daylilies, and True Lilies (Asiatics and Orientals). My soil here was
> horrible: shallow, mostly fill dirt overlaying compacted clay, with a
> lot of
> rock/gravel/bentonite mixed in it. I double-dug the bed to a depth of 18
> inches, removed many, many wheelbarrow loads of rock and then added in
> 16x
> 4-cubic foot bags of peat moss plus a small mountain of compost. The end
> result was a nice bed of soil about 24 inches deep. I now have it
> partially
> planted with 80 different siberians, a dozen or so daylilies, and about
> 40
> different asiatic lilies with many more planned additions for next
> year. I'm
> in the process of installing a drip irrigation system for the bed -- 
> drip
> being all but mandatory here given that we only get about 15 inches of
> rainfall in a normal year and many years Denver ends up rationing water;
> fortunate for me, too, the bed is directly above an old branch sewer
> line
> that appears to leak some as I've I found the ground below about a foot
> in
> depth to always be slightly damp. (I also have plans for another bed on
> the
> other side of the house once I figure out how to get rid of a gigantic
> rock
> (the size of a small car) that is mostly buried there.)
>
> One of my goals is to have a planting of all the Morgan Award winners.
> I got
> a list of the siberians who have won this award from 1952-2005 from the
> Society for Siberian Irises website, and have to date acquired (or
> ordered)
> all of the listed award winners except for:
>     1954 - Tropic Night
>     1966 - Cool Spring
>     1970 - Dewful
>     1974 - Grand Junction
>     1979 - Augury
> If anyone has information as to source(s) for any of these I would be
> most
> appreciative.
>
> Thanks,
> Arthur Goodwin
>
>
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