Re: Excited!!!!!
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- Subject: Re: [sibrob] Excited!!!!!
- From: j*@home.com
- Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:05:38 -0600
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From: jimsullivansgarden@home.com
Hi Marty,
I enjoyed reading your response to Don's Excited!!! , but have to admit
I am still a little confused on the term blaze. Is it restricted to
blue? or an extension of the color in the signal? I agree it would make
a great subject for discussion for the winter months. I also think with
the really unique color combinations that you are coming up with in your
hybridizing program(s) this would be something which is regularly
brought to mind. Definitely food for thought. Have to say that I am
more than just a little jealous of the blooming siberians I am hearing
about - just a few more days here though.
Jim in Saskatoon, Canada ~Zone 3
Jpwflowers@aol.com wrote:
>
> From: Jpwflowers@aol.com
>
> Loved your note - glad to hear someone is as crazy as me.
>
> The terminology on siberians is very fluid (not too pinned down) including
> signal vs. blaze. So I'll just give you my take on it. I consider the
> signal to be the area which begins at the hafts (connection of falls to rest
> of flower) and flows out onto the fall more or less depending on the iris.
> It includes the white and/or yellow (or green or brown) area which is usually
> crossed by darker veining. Sometimes in addition to a signal there is an
> area below it which has a color which is different or more intense than the
> fall color and I call this a blaze (or sometimes a halo). For example many
> reddish siberians have white signals crossed more or less with red veins or
> lines and then a bluish area extends from the white out onto the falls in a
> more or less diffused pattern. It is this additional blue area I call the
> blaze. Not all siberians have it though almost all have a signal (even
> though it can be very small). It is also possible for the signal to be quite
> large and cover a large part of the falls as is seen in many of the very
> early siberian hybrids and as it is doing more and more in some of Bob
> Hollingworth's modern hybrids.
>
> What does everyone else think? Do you have a different interpretation of
> these terms? It would be great if we could all use the words in the same
> way.
>
> Jan has been wanting to do a study of signals for years, taking pictures of
> all the different incarnations. It is such an important part of siberian
> flowers. There is lots of terminology that could be helpful. When we write
> seedling evaluations we try to describe the parts of the flower and have come
> up with various attempts at naming the parts of the parts. Styles are
> another interesting feature. There are midribs and crests and curls and
> feathers and florets and diamond shapes and .....
> Maybe this winter we could all come up with words to describe these things.
>
> Marty Schafer , Carlisle, MA cold zone 5
>
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