SAGE Project
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- Subject: [SpaceAgeRobin] SAGE Project
- From: &* A* M* <n*@charter.net>
- Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:52:20 -0500
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Dear SAGE team:
The list of "1's" returned to Bill Burleson, in
descending order, looks like the following:
THORNBIRD 12
MESMERIZER 11 EAGLE CONTROL 10 DOCTOR NO 8 PRAETORIAN GUARD 7 ROCKSTAR RE 7 TRIPLE WHAMMY 7 TWICE THRILLING RE 6 ALIEN MIST 5 APOLLO ONE 5 ALABASTER UNICORN 4 DOUBLE TROUBLE 4 HOLY FIRE 4 HONEY SCOOP 4 LURID 4 SOLAR FIRE 4 AMERICAN EAGLE 3 CORAL POINT 3 MOMENTOUS OCCASION 3 MOONRAKER 3 BOTTOM'S UP 2 BYE BYE BLUE 2 FRENCH HORN 2 HOWDY DO 2 TROPICAL DELIGHT RE 2 BARBARA'S LACE 1 BUGLE BOY BLUES 1 ART SCHOOL ANGEL 1 AIR FORCE ONE 1 FLUTE ENCHANTEE 1 IN A HEARTBEAT 1 IRON EAGLE 1 HEARTBEAT AWAY 0 For our crosses this coming spring it will be most
helpful if we each stay as high up on the list as possible unless for compelling
reasons one cannot. I am one of those with compelling reasons, as the only
SA's I currently have on hand are right down near the bottom of the list, but I
am making off-list arrangements for pollen if needed.
For the spring of 2005, I am proposing the
following list of four SA's. If you do not have these, or cannot acquire
them, a suggestion about how to proceed will follow. Two horned, and one
each of spooned and flounced varieties are listed. The criteria for the
ones selected included 1) position on the above list, 2) price, 3) reasonable
probability of quality progeny and 4) availability.
PRIMARY LIST
HORNED: Eagle Control, Doctor No SPOONED: Honey Scoop FLOUNCED: Double Trouble If you cannot obtain one or more of those mentioned
for 2005 with two or three rhizomes each recommended to ensure bloom, here are
recommended alternates that may be used in their place:
ALTERNATE LIST
Horned: Thornbird, Praetorian Guard Spooned: Bye Bye Blues or Solar Fire Flounced: Momentous Occasion or Mesmerizer The more we restrict ourselves to the primary list
for 2005 the greater probability we will have of generating significant numbers
of seedlings.
Selection of non-SA varieties for this coming
spring should include
1) the widest, best cv you have with a ledge or
shelf under the beard, or which, in the case of Devonshire Cream, has been known
to produce SA traits repeatedly under some conditions, X one of the horned
varieties from the primary list, using the horned variety as the pollen
parent
2) a quality-producing breeder that has no trace of a ledge or shelf, or is known to be a producer of few if any SA seedlings when crossed with them (see list below) X one of the horned varieties, using the horned variety as the pollen source 3) each of the horned varieties in the primary list X the flounced variety-or the reverse of the crosses, or both, depending on what produces pollen and when. 4) each of the horned varieties in the primary list X the spooned variety-or the reverse cross, or both, depending on what produces pollen and when. The "or" varieties in cross type 2 as parents
producing no SA or few SA progeny identified to date include:
Purple Pirouette
Double Bubble Blackout Quito Dynamite As we begin planning our swaps, trades and
purchases, the aims of SAGE will be furthered by including at least some of the
primary list SA 's. Please note I am recommending purchase or swap for
more than one rhizome of the varieties you intend to add. This is to help
guarantee bloom on first-year plants.
If you have serious reasons for suggesting a change
in either the "Primary List" or the "Alternates," please contact me offline and
give me your reasons (such as-"this variety produces no pollen," or "this
variety is known to be a poor performer in several geographic areas" or any
other significant reason to seek a change).
Neil Mogensen for SAGE z 7 western
NC
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