Re: veggie-digest Digest V101 #15


Title: Re: veggie-digest Digest V101 #15
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From: veggie-digest-request@eskimo.com
Reply-To: veggie-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:01:33 -0700
To: veggie-digest@eskimo.com
Subject: veggie-digest Digest V101 #15




veggie-digest Digest    Volume 101 : Issue 15

Today's Topics:
  Re: Corn flowering
  Re: Corn flowering
  Re: Corn flowering-&-could you tell me-----------------------------------------------------
  Re: Corn flowering
  Kangkong
  Basella seeds


From: Margaret Lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 09:50:54 -0600
To: veggie-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Corn flowering

At 12:29 PM 4/1/01 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi Margaret and Arzeena, I am in Singapore where its summer all year. I
>was referring to the tassles when I said "Flowering". Leaving one for seed
>sounds fine to me. I didnt expect much of a harvest cos I'm short on space
>and am actually keener on other stuff like beans, tomatoes , peppers, okra
>and eggplant- all of which I'm growing with lots of other veg too.We are a
>small family  and just want some homegrown veg to supplement what we buy.
>Besides we have all year and I can start more corn soon, even before I
>harvest this lot.I do the same with other plants, start them at different
>stages for a continual supply. Right now we are eating fresh bittermelon,
>tomatoes, basella, wild eggplant and kangkong. We hope to eat beans,
>peppers and okra soon. Last year we had lots of pumpkin and okra- both of
>which I've started again. The okra is producing buds.

What is kangkong? How do you use bittermelon?  Do you grow any leafy
greens?  What kind?  Margaret L


From: "Terra Viva Organics" <arzeena@tvorganics.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:19:38 -0700
To: <veggie-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Corn flowering

Margaret,

Kankong is also known as water spinach. When I lived in Thailand, it was my
absolute favourite vegetable (pak boong). It requires quite a lot of
moisture to grow but very yummy.

I'm not a big fan of bitter melon. It's usually prepared with pork & used in
soups.

Arzeena
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----- Original Message -----
From: Margaret Lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
To: <veggie-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Corn flowering


> At 12:29 PM 4/1/01 +0800, you wrote:
> >Hi Margaret and Arzeena, I am in Singapore where its summer all year. I
> >was referring to the tassles when I said "Flowering". Leaving one for
seed
> >sounds fine to me. I didnt expect much of a harvest cos I'm short on
space
> >and am actually keener on other stuff like beans, tomatoes , peppers,
okra
> >and eggplant- all of which I'm growing with lots of other veg too.We are
a
> >small family  and just want some homegrown veg to supplement what we buy.
> >Besides we have all year and I can start more corn soon, even before I
> >harvest this lot.I do the same with other plants, start them at different
> >stages for a continual supply. Right now we are eating fresh bittermelon,
> >tomatoes, basella, wild eggplant and kangkong. We hope to eat beans,
> >peppers and okra soon. Last year we had lots of pumpkin and okra- both of
> >which I've started again. The okra is producing buds.
>
> What is kangkong? How do you use bittermelon?  Do you grow any leafy
> greens?  What kind?  Margaret L
>
>
>


From: "Ronnalee & Scott Gerow" <rrgcjsg@bmts.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:00:29 -0400
To: "Nesa" <nesa@pacific.net.sg>, veggie-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Corn flowering-&-could you tell me-----------------------------------------------------

--------------------------where did you find seeds for basella?
Hi Nesa,
It  has been nice reading your posts and knowing what is happening
   on your side of the world. *g*.
I have tried to locate the seeds of basella for several years,
unsuccessfuly, I might add.  Would you possibly be able to tell me
where I might purchase seeds of this plant?
Your discussion with other list-members re: corn flowering, has
been interesting to me. When I was a young girl I worked, in the
summer time,on an experimental "hybrid seed corn" farm, (owned
by my father).  I t was our job to prevent individual species from
cross-hybridizing  with other varieties, and from self-pollinating.  
We had "wee" paper bags that we placed over the the top "cob" on
the stock, to prevent any airborne pollinating.  At a certain time we
covered the tassels with bags that were #d and dated, to prevent
any further  cross-pollination.
As the "cob" matured, and the "pollen" formed on the tassels, we
helped Mother Nature, by pollinating the silk on the cob (we used a
very sharp knife to remover the very top of the new formed cob and
slit the husk and spread the silk in order to pollinate). After
pollinating the silk, we covered it again to prevent any cross-
pollination.  As I mentioned, this was a hybrid seed corn business
and the source of seed for growers across Canada.  Some of the
seed corn proved itself to be extremely hearty and for that reason,
other countries purchased and became "growers" for the company.
Back to basella, I would love to have a source for this plant, which I
believe to be relatively unknown in this country.
Just tripping down "memory lane",
Thanks,
Ronnalee, in bright and sunny, Wiarton, Ontario Canada (where the
collective snow on the side of my front path, is 6 & 1/2 feet high.)



> Right now we are eating fresh bittermelon,
> tomatoes, basella, wild eggplant and kangkong.


Ronnalee & Scott Gerow
rrgcjsg@bmts.com


From: Rose-Marie Lacherez <Lacherez@uq.net.au>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:17:31 +1000
To: veggie-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Corn flowering

Hi, Nesa
On the subject of saving seeds of your miniature corn, 3 flowering plants
are not enough. You need a *minimum* of 50 plants to prevent inbreeding
depression - 100 plants is best although Susan Ashworth in "Seed to Seed"
recommends 200...
Rose-Marie
>At 12:29 PM 4/1/01 +0800, you wrote:
>>Hi Margaret and Arzeena, I am in Singapore where its summer all year. I
>>was referring to the tassles when I said "Flowering". Leaving one for seed
>>sounds fine to me. I didnt expect much of a harvest cos I'm short on space
>>and am actually keener on other stuff like beans, tomatoes , peppers, okra
>>and eggplant- all of which I'm growing with lots of other veg too.We are a
>>small family  and just want some homegrown veg to supplement what we buy.
>>Besides we have all year and I can start more corn soon, even before I
>>harvest this lot.I do the same with other plants, start them at different
>>stages for a continual supply. Right now we are eating fresh bittermelon,
>>tomatoes, basella, wild eggplant and kangkong. We hope to eat beans,
>>peppers and okra soon. Last year we had lots of pumpkin and okra- both of
>>which I've started again. The okra is producing buds.
>
>What is kangkong? How do you use bittermelon?  Do you grow any leafy
>greens?  What kind?  Margaret L


From: "Nesa" <nesa@pacific.net.sg>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:03:18 +0800
To: <veggie-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Kangkong

This is water spinach(grows on land too) or Ipomoea . It is very rich in iron and popular with Asians but banned in Florida as a pest as it grows so well. It is a leafy green and can be harvested every fornight(cut and come again). Basella is also a leafy green. We cook bittermelon in stirfry, lentil curry, sambal(with ground chilly) stuffed in soup etc,


From: "Nesa" <nesa@pacific.net.sg>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:06:43 +0800
To: <veggie-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Basella seeds

i havent come across these being sold commercially. Even is Singapore and Malaysia where they are eaten , seeds are not sold at the market with other seeds. I am in the process of replanting and have given away most of my seeds but have svevral plants that should start producing seeds soon. If you're keen perhpas we can do a trade or something.




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