Re: Garden Plans
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- From: N*
- Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:40:53 -0500
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Hi Pat!
I'm in southern Maryland, so my advice is what works for me.
1. I don't believe there is a problem talking about specific companies and
brands- anyone else care to comment??
2. Fluorescent are fine. I have four double light fixtures in the basement
that work great. Use new tubes for max lighting. Mine are on chains so
that I can raise and lower at will. Keep them within a couple inches of the
plants. I had trouble germinating tomatoes last year- got a seed starting
mat for Xmas- can't wait to try it!
3. I've grown lettuce in the basement. My basement is heated. It seems to
grow best in cool temps (my basement is too warm, I believe.) I have had
great success with swiss chard. Had a meal for two last week!
4. Standard advice is to plant pea seeds on St Patrick's day. I wait till
end of March so that the seeds don't rot in cool soil. (Can't hurt to try!).
Don't know about lettuce- plan on building a cold frame soon, so I WILL be
planting lettuce real early. Biggest problem setting out tom's early in my
area is wind, chilly temps and too much rain. I aim to set mine out May 15.
4a. I have read cucumbers need 70 F soil to germinate. In regards to
shriveling- make sure they get lots of water. The Pollinator (Dave Green)
on this list can tell you all you need to know about proper pollination.
5. Good plan for a cold frame in Eliot Coleman's book "Four-Season
Harvest". This is what I plan on building!
Hope this helps. I can't wait for spring!!
Beth ( MD, Zone 7)
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Callahan <pac1@tiac.net>
To: <veggie-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 12:29 PM
Subject: Garden Plans
> Apparently I need forgiveness too. My reply on Y2k was very off-topic.
> and should
> have been directed only to julianne, with the appropriate smiley faces
> of course....
> :-)
>
>
> Anyway Pat's vegetable plans, problems and questions:
>
> I'm in New England. Ground may be workable as early as March 1 or as
late
> as April 15. What can I get away with?
>
> 1. order seeds by 1/1/2000. Is it ok to name or talk about seed
> suppliers on this list?
>
> 2. do I really need "grow lights" to start seeds indoors, or do
> ordinary flourescent bulbs work as well? How about some kind of warming
> cables or trays. Are those necessary?
>
> 3. Plant lettuce in the basement by 1/1 I'm told this works and you can
> harvest all winter long. Has anyone tried this?
>
> 4. Start seeds for lettuce, broccoli, tomato, cucumber, and zuchinni
> indoors at the appropriate time using advice in seed catalogs. Plan to
> transplant small but healthy plants about May 1, May 15 and May 30. Is
> May 30 too late? May 1 too early?
>
> 4a. Start seeds for lettuce & peas outside as early as march 1 (is
> that crazy?)
> Start seeds for cucumber outside as early as April 1
> mark the ends of rows with radish seeds.
> Replant early at two week intervals in case frost or cold got the
> early stuff.
>
> 5. Build a cold frame in the garden. Anyone got any ideas for doing
> this on
> the cheap?
>
>
>
> Crops: Lettuce, Carrots, Peas, Beets Pole & Bush Beans, Kohlrabi,
> Broccoli, Cucumber, Zuchinni
>
> Lettuce: Mass plantings of Mesclun Mix and Red Sails. 2 4x4 foot beds
> kept us in salads for most of last summer we finished picking the last
> of it on Thanksgiving weekend.
>
> Swiss Chard. Last picking on Thanksgiving weekend. we had some in a
> salad the day after Christmas. What a year!
>
> Carrots didn't do too well. Some got shaded by the tomatoes. and were
> kind of small even where they were'nt shaded.
>
> Cukes, wilted and died off midsummer before I got very many. The cukes I
> got were small and had a curly tip. Anyone have any suggestions? The
> cukes that did the best were planted later in the summer and next to the
> pole beans where they got some shade. They still died back.
>
> Pumkin: a disaster. The lumina set fruit and then failed. I think the
> problem here might be the insects that colonized the leaves. One plant
> climbed a fence while I was on vacation. so it lost its fruit too.
> there was some rot at the root as well.
> I don't use pesticides.
>
> Cherry Tomatoes did ok. Goliath was a disappointment.
>
> Kohlrabi is just plain fun. I had a couple of plants left over in 1998
> and they managed to winter over. In the spring, the plants took off and
> branched multiple times with woody stalks ending with several perfectly
> good bulbs. I had to stake the plants.
>
> The beets didn't grow much but what I did get tasted great. They were
> small, no more than an inch in diameter after growing the whole season
> but very sweet.
>
> For Bush beans- Royal burgundy has worked really well for me. Freshly
> picked, with their unusual deep purple color, they're wonderful for
> sharing with neighbors.
>
>
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