FW: Gardening 2001 - now sq foot ?'s



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [k*@adelphia.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 10:31 PM
To: debby@debbywilliams.com
Subject: RE: Gardening 2001 - now sq foot ?'s


I do it in about 100-120sq ft. I have two 3x8 beds & 1 4x8 bed,
assembled forming a U-shape |_| and the rest is containers. the 3 beds
actually make 80 sq ft but the overflow around the beds (containers,
buckets, etc) are probably about 40 sq ft. The outside dimensions of the
"U" would be about 8-8.5' wide (east to west) by 12' tall (south to
north.) I will put some links to pics & diagrams. 1999 had 21 tomato
plants in the 4x8 and about the same # of peppers in one of the 3x8's.
See the 1999 diagram:
http://server3001.freeyellow.com/bowtiesupply/img/garden/plants.gif
 Last year, 2000, I rearranged space to make room for celery, lettuce,
radish, borage, etc, at the expense of tomato plants (had to move more
'maters to buckets) but also added onions & garlic & shallots and ended
up with over 350-400 plants (excluding radishes.) Also use 55 gallon
plastic drums cut in 1/2 & 1/3's to plant corn, pumpkins, etc., and
whole drums (white) to grow potatoes. Also grew melons & small
watermelons up a fence/trellis (vertically, taking up only 1x4' of
ground space. Here was last year's diagram, almost to the inch, with a
legend of what is what:
http://server3001.freeyellow.com/bowtiesupply/img/garden/__newgrid-2000.
gif

As of the beginning of winter, it is still in planning, maybe caging the
tomatoes and giving them more room each plant (I previously grew them up
a string, about a 1x1' per plant, or 12x16" per plant of ground space)
but last fall I already planted the garlic, egyptian/walking onions,
shallots, etc, and still left a couple elephant garlics in from last
year. See current:
http://server3001.freeyellow.com/bowtiesupply/img/garden/__newgrid-12140
0a.gif

Actually you can see all the pics by going to the directory & clicking
each file:http://server3001.freeyellow.com/bowtiesupply/img/garden/

There is also an overhead diagram of the beds (cedar2.jpg) using 1x12's
for the sides, 4x4's for the corners, and 2x4's for the braces. There is
also a pic taken in the fall from a 2nd floor window downward
(__GARDENTOP640.JPG) after much of the beds were pulled up (there were
still chard, celery, marigolds, etc.) Almost all the rest of the files
are actual pics taken with a digital camera, mostly August thru October.

I also do lots of companion planting and cross referenced companion
plants before I planted; some companions to one plant may not be a good
companion to the plant on the other side of it--this was all taken into
account in both the diagrams.

By the way, everything is watered by drip irrigation, cuz I am not
always around. I have a solenoid valve & digital controller which runs
everything. This is the most expensive part of it, about $85, but almost
all the rest of the drip stuff is only about $30 or so if you wanted to
do it manually. If anyone needs some advice or questions you can e-mail
me directly if you don't want to plug up the list server. remove &
decode the proper stuff in the following e-mail address if you can't see
the message headers:
korney19ATadelphiaDOTnet

Also, I am in Buffalo, NY, Zone 6a:
http://server3001.freeyellow.com/bowtiesupply/img/garden/_SNOW-1.JPG
(Early winter pic)

P.S. Here are some good links to Companion Planting:
http://www.lisa.hafey.org/Companion_Planting.html
http://ghorganics.com/page2.html
http://eap.mcgill.ca/Publications/EAP55.htm
http://www.almanac.com/garden/garden.herbcomp.html
http://goodseed.net/complant.html
http://www.penpages.psu.edu/penpages%5Freference/29401/29401183.html

Hope this helps anyone/somone.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Debby Williams [d*@home.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:35 PM
To: veggie-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Gardening 2001 - now sq foot ?'s


Mark,

How many beds do you have and how large are they?  You are planting
many, many
varieties of veggies and I am jealous!!  I am curious how you plant all
these on
a city lot - maybe nothing but veggies are growing in your yard?

Mark wrote:

> You wanted to know what new will be growing this year? here's a list
of
> my seeds I bought, butI won't have enough room for everything, I will
> have to be selective with varieties & narrow them down some more:
>
> TOMATO, ANNA RUSSIAN            TOMATO, OREGON SPRING
> TOMATO, BONNY BEST              TOMATO, PINEAPPLE
> TOMATO, BOX CAR WILLIE          TOMATO, POLISH GIANT
> TOMATO, BUSH BIG BOY            TOMATO, PRUDEN'S PURPLE
> TOMATO, CASPIAN PINK            TOMATO, QUARTER CENTURY
> TOMATO, COUSTRALEE              TOMATO, RED ROBIN
> TOMATO, DRUZBA                  TOMATO, RIO GRANDE
> TOMATO, EVA PURPLE BALL         TOMATO, ROMA
> TOMATO, GERM. RED STRAWBERRY    TOMATO, RUTGER'S
> TOMATO, GIANT OXHEART           TOMATO, SAN MARZANO
> TOMATO, GLACIER                 TOMATO, SIBERIA
> TOMATO, GOLDIE                  TOMATO, SOLDACKI
> TOMATO, JULIET                  TOMATO, SPOON
> TOMATO, MATT'S WILD CHERRY      TOMATO, STUPICE
> TOMATO, MICRO-TOM                       TOMATO, SUN SUGAR
> TOMATO, MINI PEARLS             TOMATO, SUNGOLD
> TOMATO, MOSKVICH                        TOMATO, SUPER BUSH
> TOMATO, MOUNTAIN PRINCESS       TOMATO, SUPERSWEET 100
> TOMATO, MULE TEAM                       TOMATO, SWEET CHELSEA
> TOMATO, OLD BROOKS              TOMATO, SWEET CLUSTER
> TOMATO, OLD GERMAN              TOMATO, TINY TIM
> TOMATO, OPALKA                  TOMATO, TIP-TOP
> TOMATO, ORANGE STRAWBERRY(5")   TOMATO, TRIP-L-CROP
>
> TOMATILLO, PINEAPPLE            TOMATILLO, TOMA VERDE
>
> PEPPER, APPLE                   PEPPER, HOT-TRI-FETTI
> PEPPER, CAL WONDER              PEPPER, JINGLE BELLS
> PEPPER, CHOC. BEAUTY            PEPPER, MILD-ANCHO
> PEPPER, NEW ACE                 PEPPER, MILD-BOLDOG HUNGARIAN SPICE
> PEPPER, HOT-HABANERO            PEPPER, MILD-PEPPERONCINO
> PEPPER, HOT-PETER                       PEPPER, HOT-BULGARIAN CARROT
> PEPPER, PURPLE BEAUTY           PEPPER, HOT-PURPLE CAYENNE
> PEPPER, HOT-THAI SUN
>
> PEA, MR. BIG                    PUMPKIN, BIG MAX
> PEA, SUPER SUGAR SNAP           PUMPKIN, DILL'S A-G GADBERRY
> PEA, TALL TELEPHONE             PUMPKIN, DILL'S A-G GARRELL 792X682
> PEA, TOP POD                    PUMPKIN, DILL'S ATLANTIC GIANT
>
> CUKE, COOL BREEZE                       MELON, DELICIOUS
> CUKE, HOMEMADE PICKLES          MELON, FASTBREAK
> CUKE, LUCKY STRIKE              MELON, MINN. MIDGET
> CUKE, NATIONAL PICKLING         MELON, PASSPORT
> CUKE, VERT DE MASSY             MELON, SPRITE
> CUKE, W. INDIA GHERKIN          WATERMELON, PONY YELLOW
>
> BASIL, BUSH BASIL                       DATURA, METEL
> BASIL, LEMON BASIL              DILL, DUKAT STRAIN
> BASIL, OSMIN BASIL              DILL, FERNLEAF
> BASIL, PURPLE RUFFLES           HYSSOP
> BEAN, EMERITE POLE              LAVENDER, MUNSTEAD
> BEAN, MAXIBEL BUSH              LEMON BALM
> BEAN, PURPLE PEACOCK POLE       LETTUCE, BUTTERCRUNCH
> BEAN, ROYAL BURGUNDY BUSH       LETTUCE, SUMMERTIME
> BEAN, SCARLET RUNNER            LETTUCE, TOM THUMB
> BEAN, SCARLET RUNNER            MARIGOLD, BROCADE
> BEAN, YARD LONG                 NICOTIANA
> BORAGE                          ONION, BARLETTA WHITE PICKLING
> CALENDULA                               OREGANO
> CARDINAL CLIMBER                        PARSLEY, PREZZEMOLO GIGANTE D'
ITALIA
> CAULIFLOWER, SILVER CUP         RADISH, RAT-TAIL RADISH PLANT (3-5')
> CELERY, GOLDEN SELF-BLANCH      SAGE
> CHAMOMILE, ROMAN                        SALVIA
> CILANTRO, LARGE LEAF            SQUASH, HI-BETA GOLD F1 (SPEGHETTI)
> CHERVIL                         THYME
>
> I do square foot gardening & raised bed & container gardening, but
> living in a city, I don't have enough "square foot" for everything;
> already have over 60 tomatoes started & about 40 peppers, as well as
> over 50 companion plants & herbs.
> Any comments on varieties, please let me know your results or
opinions.
> Mark

--
Debby Williams
Author of Fruit and Urban Kitchen Gardening e-zines at:
http://wz.com/homegarden/GardensPlants.html
Regional Advisor at http://www.thevegetablepatch.com/
Oakland County, Michigan USA;USDA Hardiness Zones 5b/6a
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