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Re: starting seeds indoors
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- Subject: Re: starting seeds indoors
- From: N* <R*@foxinternet.net>
- Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 06:32:42 -0700
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Lauren appears to have more time or inclination than I. The note Lauren wrote
concurs pretty much with what I would have said if I'd taken (had) the time to
think it out. So I've made this into a really long message by leaving it
attached. (The fact that I'm writing this at 0614 local time on Sat before I
leave for work for the 7th day in a row should provide a clue as to my current
schedule.)
The fan idea is good, especially for plants that are going to spend a long time
under cover, like tomatoes and peppers. It induces a stronger cell structure in
the stems and leaves, helping reduce "spindliness".
I would also like to reiterate: keep it cool! Germinate the seeds at high temps
(70's or so) but grow the seedlings as cool as the plants can stand. 55 deg F
for tropicals like tomatoes and 40-50 for frost-hardy's like lettuce and coles.
They won't grow very fast but they will grow strong and when you set them out
they will far out-perform the larger spindly yellow things grown at high temps.
And as for fertilizer: I use a little dilute (very dilute) 10-20-10 in the
water, but early in the year I rarely water more that once a month. If the
temps are low enough then you won't use that much water. I bottom water to
avoid fertilizer salt buildup, which would only be a problem with the tropicals
that stay under cover for such a long time.
Final note: Don't expect to get vegetables or very many flowers off a plant in a
3" pot grown under fluorescents. You have to set them out before they'll really
grow.
And if my news software generates lines without CR's, I would hope someone would
let me know. (It is not apparent to the poster.)
Steve (Maritime Climate -- USDA Zone irrelevant)
nonayobusiness wrote:
>
> -- [ From: nonayobusiness * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --
>
> Hi Denny, The only things that I can think of to add are the following:
> When the plants get to be about 1" high, I turn on an electric fan for
> a little while a few times a day, on a gentle speed. This way, I am
> killing any fungus culprits that may be around waiting to cause problems.
> Also, it makes the plants stronger. Obviously, the fan shouldn't be right
> on top of the plants, it should just give them a little gentle breeze.
> Also, I have always used the cheap shop lights, but what I do is use one
> warm white and one cool white light bulb in each fixture. This is
> supposed to give a fuller bunch of whatever waves of light that the plants
> need. The cool white ones are 99 cents around here, but the other ones are
> EXPENSIVE!!!!! so I usually cheat and use them for more than a few years.
> The intensity of the light give off is supposed to lessen towards the ends
> of the bulbs, so I try to put the more forgiving plants over there. There
> is also more heat given off at the ends, so you should put the ones that
> need more heat in that area. The tubes are just above the top leaves of
> the plants. If things aren't growing at the same pace, just put something
> under the short ones to boost them up to the bulbs. (There's always
> something around in the bsmt. to use as a booster!)
> As far as feeding, I use any 15-30-15 at a diluted strength, whenever I
> remember to do it, after the plants start looking like plants, not
> infants.
>
> It's important to keep the place that they're growing cool, like 55F,
> because otherwise, things get kind of spindly, and look like green
> spaghetti, and lose their vigor. This is after they have germinate,
> which usually happens at a higher temp. look at the seed pack. I sometime
> germinate things on top of the light tubes, because the white metal thing
> with the machinery inside gets pretty warm. The refrigerator is the best
> place, though (ON TOP) because it is wider and hopefully not swing
> around the way the light fixtures do on those obnoxious chains. However, we
> redid the kitchen, and there is this annoying cabinet on top of the fridge
> now, with only a few inches of clearance, so I can't use it anymore. When
> things get really crowded with seed starts, I also agree with whoever said
> that the sun is the best thing. I have stuck flats of seeds in my parked
> car, in the sun, with a window cracked, in the early spring, and they
> really perk up. You just have to be really careful and not forget about
> them. They dry out faster there. I hope that these suggestions are not
> too silly, and that they are of some additional help to you.
>
> -Lauren z. 6
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