Several of you asked for more information on a hardy Ilex aquifolium. The cultivar is I. a. "Siberica". I have seen it listed at -20F and -30F. It is available from local garden centers in the Boston area but I have not seen it offered mail order. The Avant Gardener states that it is being introduced by the Conard-Pyle Company of Holland. I have no personal experience with this plant. Frank Simpson - Z5 NH --------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the message text UNSUBSCRIBE WOODYPLANTS