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RE: [Aroid-l] Philodendron seed from S. Amer.

  • Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Philodendron seed from S. Amer.
  • From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon@hotmail.com
  • Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:45:53 +0000

Dear Denis,

Bingo! You are completely right! Those that are not wild collected are obtained from completely random pollination. Even when the mother plants are different species, pollen from P. bipinnatifidum makes everything to appear P. bipinnatifidum-like.

Very best wishes,


Dr. Eduardo G. Goncalves
Universidade Catolica de Brasilia
Curso de Ciencias Biologicas
Sala M-206, QS 7, Lote 1, EPTC
CEP 72030-170, Taguatinga – DF, BRAZIL.

From: "Denis Rotolante" <denis@skg.com>
Reply-To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
To: "'Discussion of aroids'" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Philodendron seed from S. Amer.
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:20:48 -0500

I got similar results from my seed which were supposed to be Saxicolum
and speciosum. I was very supprised that the seed was so dry and
powdery. The speciosum seed germinated 50% And grew vigorously but
turned out to be some plain sagitate leafed vining variety not an
arborescent type at all...The saxicolum germinated about 60% but just as
you described in your experience turned out to be some kind of
bipinnatifidum-esque seedlings. I do not know whether they let the fruit
flies and beatles do indescriminate pollinations of plants or they
deliberately send people gerbil-speak assuming that the average person
will not be able to germinate and grow the seed to maturity and see what
they really are. "You want speciosum? Here, take this random
open-pollinated selloum seed and grow it out if you can."  Oh well. Live
and learn...

Denis at Silver Krome Gardens
Homestead Florida

-----Original Message-----
From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Neil Crafter
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:35 AM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron seed from S. Amer.

Dear Julius
I was involved in that order from South America a few years back - in
fact I have to own up to being one of the instigators. The only success
I had in the end were with some seedlings of  supposed P.eichleri, as
the other seeds did not germinate. The only surviving plant of
P.eichleri that I have does not appear to be P.selloum / bipinnatifidum
as the leaves are generally only pinnate and not bipinnate, and the
stem has very long intra-vaginal squamules. So I would say that my
plant is not P.selloum, but whether it is P.eichleri with any certainty
is another thing. Looks similar though to Graf's photo of P.eichleri in

Can't say I'm all that surprised about what you have relayed - just
disappointed that's all. Certainly won't be ordering any more seed from
these people. probably just as well the other varieties didn't
germinate - don't need any more P.selloum!!! Would like to hear from
any others who participated some years ago.
best regards

Neil Crafter
Adelaide, Australia

On 01/02/2005, at 7:42 PM, Julius Boos wrote:

> Dear All,
> I`d just like to enquire as to what sucess was had  the folks who
> ordered seed of the different  Philodendron seed from S. America some
> time ago, especially if the resulting plants turned out to be or even
> look like the species they were advertised to be????     The reason I
> ask is that one friend so very kindly sent three seedlings of what
> were sold to her as being  P. saxicolum, these have now grown large
> enough to see that they are something else BESIDES P. saxicolum,
> probably what we would call P. 'selloum' or one of its close
> relations.    For legal concerns  I am not using the name of the
> Company from which they were ordered, but I`d like to hear comments on

> your seedlings.   Recently I had spoken w/ a member who ordered seed
> from this same Company MANY years ago, he told me his yard had
> beautiful specimens of what appeared to be a BUNCH of P. 'selloum', no

> other species of Philo. could be discovered amongst the plants grown
> from many 'advertised' species.
> Drop a line to the L.
> Good Growing,
> Julius
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