Re: North Queensland

Good to hear from you Mick.
At least your safe and your home was one that was spared. 
 
 
 
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> 1. Re: North Queensland (Michael Pascall)
> 2. Re: Philodendron sp., Atlantic forest, Northeastern Bahia,
> Brazil (Johannes Moonen)
> 3. Re: Amorphophallus titanum (Eduardo Gomes Goncalves)
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> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:14:29 +1000
> From: Michael Pascall <mickpascall@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] North Queensland
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> cat 5 cyclone overhead is no fun
> esp. for the garden .house ok
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> Michael Pascall,
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> From: greg@alpacamanagement.com
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> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:16:08 +1030
> Subject: [Aroid-l] North Queensland
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> To all our friends in North Queensland.
> Stay safe and please let us know that all is well after the cyclone passes.
> Greg Ruckert
> Nairne,
> South Australia
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> From: Johannes Moonen <emeraldjunglevillage@wanadoo.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron sp., Atlantic forest, Northeastern
> Bahia, Brazil
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> Dear Leland,
>
> I have slides of both Saxi and Leal in nature at the Chiapas
> Diamantinas in Bahia.
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> I will digitalize and sent them to you.
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> Tchao, Joep
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> On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:14 PM, brian lee wrote:
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> > Dear Alex,
> >
> > Aloha.
> >
> > I focus on Philodendron subgenus, Meconostigma...this one is a
> > member of the subgenus, Philodendron. Marcus Nadruz or Eduardo
> > Goncalves would be the best to comment on this taxon. However, it
> > looks like it has affinities to Philodendron melinonii of the
> > Amazonian regions. The only thing that is atypical is the long
> > internode of the younger growth. I have seen this happen if the
> > seedling is found wedged in the persistent leafbases of palms and
> > the internodes can elongate. This particular plant looks like an
> > immature of Philodendron melinonii. It may be something totally
> > different as your location is so far south from the natural
> > distribution range of this species. At any rate the fibers and
> > certain details remind me of this.
> >
> > On a Meconostigma question, could you photograph and post pictures
> > of Philodendron saxicola and Philodendron leal-costae , found in
> > Bahia? If you run across any Meconostigma in Bahia, like
> > Philodendron williamsii....any habitat photos would be very
> > interesting to see.
> >
> > Aloha,
> >
> > Leland
> >
> > From: Alex Popovkin <popovkin@gmail.com>
> > To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com
> > Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 12:39:53 AM
> > Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron sp., Atlantic forest, Northeastern
> > Bahia, Brazil
> >
> > ID help requested on this local Philodendron sp. (Brazil:Bahia:Entre
> > Rios:Areal:-12.15 -37.53 50m).
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/plants_of_russian_in_brazil/sets/72157625982585354/
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Alex Popovkin, Bahia, Brazil
> > -12.01 -38.02
> > Over 8,150 images of local flora (and fauna): http://tinyurl.com/popovkin
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> From: Eduardo Gomes Goncalves <eduardo.goncalves@inhotim.org.br>
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus titanum
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> Dear Alistair
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> You are absolutely correct. I have re-checked this morning and "titanum" is the genitive plural of "titan" so it means exactly "of the titans". Since it came from greek, its declension is anomalous.
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> Very best wishes,
>
> Eduardo.
>
> Em 06/02/2011, ?s 21:15, Alistair Hay escreveu:
>
> > I think the point is that not all speces epithets are adjectival, so they do not necessarily have to agree with the gender of the genus.
> >
> > For example in Alocasia scalprum the epithet is a noun which happens to be neuter: the knife alocasia. An adjectival latin epithet in Alocasia would indeed be feminine: Alocasia indica: the indian Alocasia.
> >
> > Aglaonema is a neuter genus, as are Cyrtosperma, Arisaema and Syngonium. So its Aglaonema rotundum, Cyrtosperma cuspidispathum, Arisaema concinnum and Syngonium chiapense when the epithet is adjectival.
> >
> > In Amorphophallus titanum, the epithet is not an adjective. I am uncertain but fairly sure it is the genitive plural, meaning "of the titans" or something like that. It does not mean the adjective "titanic".
> >
> > Alistair
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> > On 05/02/2011, at 10:50 PM, "Marek Argent" <abri1973@wp.pl> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Eduardo,
> >>
> >> A good point.
> >>
> >> The suffix -um is neutral and it fits to all grammatic genera:
> >> Also feminine botanical genera species epithet can end with -um,
> >> the examples are: Arisaema triphyllum, Alocasia scalprum, Aglaonema commutatum, Syngonium auritum...
> >> But indeed, I have never heard another construction like Amorphophallus titanum.
> >>
> >> I always wondered why Alocasia macrorrhizos is a proper name, the epithet is of Greek origin,
> >> and I don't know why it is named so. The suffix -os is masculine in Greek, and Alocasia is feminine.
> >> And what do you think about the name Synandrospadix vermitoxicus?
> >> I can't find anywhere what is the gender of the word "spadix". Isn't it feminine?
> >>
> >> There is also one important note,
> >> many people erroneously take genera ending with -is as masculine, but it is feminine,
> >> Ariopsis peltata or in other families Iris pumila, Clematis lanuginosa etc.
> >> Also the genera ending with -as are feminine: Anubias gigantea, Zamioculcas zamiifolia, Cycas revoluta.
> >> But... the pine tree, Pinus seems to be a masculine word, and we have Pinus sylvestris, P. excelsa, P. nigra,
> >> while some other species of pine end usually with -us: like Pinus strobus.
> >>
> >> Strange things...
> >> Marek
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Eduardo Gomes Goncalves
> >> To: Discussion of aroids
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:34 PM
> >> Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus titanum
> >>
> >> Dear fellows,
> >>
> >> I have a silly (but important) question for you. As far as I know, Amophophallus is a masculine word, am I correct?
> >>
> >> In Latin, except for the name of traditional trees (Malus, Pyrus, etc), all names ended in -us are male names. So it is correct to say that all adjective epithets in Amorphophallus species end with -us (A. gomboczianus, A. hirsutus, A lunatus, A. glaucophyllus, etc).
> >>
> >> Why Amophophallus titanum is not A. titanus? Other species with a similar epithet (I don't remember none in plant kingdom, but I know Dorcus titanus - a beetle)... Wilbert, do you have any reason for this?
> >>
> >> Very best wishes,
> >>
> >> Eduardo.
> >>
> >>
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