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Re: [Aroid-l] Is this an aroid? - I think it's a Tacca


Hi,

I think I've seen this plant offered as some kind of Tacca - maybe this hellps ? I'm quite sure that it's no aroid, the flowers just don't fit at all.
I found a link:
http://www2.bishopmuseum.org/ethnobotanydb/resultsdetailed.asp?search=pia_T
where it is identified as Tacca leontopetaloides.

Best regards !

Michael


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Datum: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:39:54 -0500
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An: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
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>    1. Re: Amydrium or Rhaphidophora (Helmut Reisenberger)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:44:49 +0200
> From: Helmut Reisenberger <gartenbaureisenberger@web.de>
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amydrium or Rhaphidophora
> To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Message-ID: <316467269@web.de>
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> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> > Gesendet: 21.07.07 22:01:20
> > An: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> > Betreff: Re: [Aroid-l] Amydrium or Rhaphidophora
> 
> Hallo Christopher Rogers,
> Thank?s  for your contribution to the theme. I also want to thank Peter
> for his helpful advice.
> To all the aroiders I?d like to start a further discussion about
> distinguishing beetween Monstera/Epipremnum/Pothos/
> Raphidophorum/Amydrium and other very similar genera, so far that the
> origin of the single species is not known.
> I have, gathered, from different collections in Europe, a wide variety of
> lookalikes and would appreciate any help in identification. The Aroid
> Identification Center of course is a valuable help, but sometimes I get no
> results (eg. my Id request of an Anthurium, where even Tom?s identification is
> still not satisfactory) or at least not to helpful.
> 
> Regarding Monstera, Raphidophorum & Co, can anybody recommend any helpful
> literatur (additional to the renowned books
> of Bogner, Mayo, Boyce; Deni Bown; Tom Croat or widespread articles in
> Aoideana)?
> Can anybody name a specialized expert on these genera?
> I can take picts of my "aliens" and would like to put them in the net,
> while I do the same in Aroid-ID.
> 
> Best regards
> Helmut 
> 
> > Hiya Peter,
> > 
> > Do these differences hold just between these two species, or are they
> good
> > differences between the two genera?
> > 
> > Happy days,
> > Christopher
> > 
> > D. Christopher Rogers
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> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
> > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]On Behalf Of Peter Boyce
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:14 AM
> > To: Discussion of aroids
> > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amydrium or Rhaphidophora
> > 
> > Hi Helmut,
> > 
> > The differences (leaving aside the generic ovary/ovule & fruit/seed
> > differences) are:
> > 
> > Epipremnum pinnatum
> > Foliage leaves at more-or less one at each node.
> > Leaves with pin-holes along the mid-rib.
> > Shoot apex with matted fibrous material
> > Stems with irregular longitudinal crests.
> > 
> > Rhaphidophora decursiva
> > Foliage leaves scattered and interspersed bu up to 7 nodes bearing only
> a
> > cataphyll.
> > Leaves without pin-holes along the mid-rib.
> > Shoot apex without fibrous material.
> > Stems without irregular longitudinal crests.
> > 
> > Very best regards
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Helmut Reisenberger" <gartenbaureisenberger@web.de>
> > To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amydrium or Rhaphidophora
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Peter,
> > Can You tell me the difference between Raphidophora decursiva and
> Epipremnum
> > pinnatum.
> > I have somme huge plants of this type in my greenhouse and the leaves
> are up
> > to 6 ft (2 meters) long.
> > My original plant is a huge climber - I think the only really big one in
> > Europe - in the HBV (Vienna Botanical Garden).
> > To my knowledge it always was presented there as Epipremnum pinnatum.
> > In the history of the identification of E. pinnatum You find a lot of
> > taxinom. changes.
> > Can You, Peter, as the expert, bring clearness ?
> > rgds. Helmut
> > 
> > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> > > Gesendet: 12.07.07 00:48:33
> > > An: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> > > Betreff: Re: [Aroid-l] Amydrium or Rhaphidophora
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Harry,
> > >
> > > This is Rhaphidophora decursiva a trans-Himalaynan species from Nepal
> > > eastwards through Bangladesh, N. Myanmar, N. Thailand, N. Lao PDR, N
> > > Vietnam and into SW China. It can get very large (60 + m) tall and is
> > > distinctive for having shoots with the foliage leaves only every 4 - 7
> > > nodes
> > > and the intervening nodes with a barct-like leaf (cataphyll).
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Harry Witmore" <harrywitmore@witmore.net>
> > > To: "'Discussion of aroids'" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:00 AM
> > > Subject: [Aroid-l] Amydrium or Rhaphidophora
> > >
> > >
> > > >I believe I got this plant from Brian Williams years ago but I have
> never
> > > > put a tag on it. I thought it was an Amydrium but now I believe it
> could
> > > > be
> > > > a Rhaphidophora species. It has never flowered for me. Is anyone
> > > > familiar
> > > > with this plant. Brian?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cloudjungle.com/CloudJungle/Araceae/Unknown/AroidNoid.jpg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harry Witmore
> > > > Cloud Jungle Epiphytes
> > > > www.cloudjungle.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:28:45 +0200
> From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973@wp.pl>
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Is this an aroid?
> To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Message-ID: <014301c7cfe5$19ee0c40$0b01a8c0@vaasgard>
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> Hello all!
> 
> Today I got these photos to identify, but I think the plant isn't a member
> of Araceae. What can you say about this?
> 
> Marek
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: ALASDAIR MACLEOD 
> To: abri1973@wp.pl 
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:42 PM
> Subject: Possibly unidentified aroid
> 
> 
> Good day.  We found this unusual plant growing in a pot at a nursery in
> south Florida and the nursery owner, considering it a weed, gave it to us. 
> From its growth habit, we first considered it an aroid; however, since the
> blooms are opening, we're not sure at all.  For size reference, the plant is
> pictured growing in a 1-gallon pot and there is approximately a 2-week
> span between the first pictures of the buds and then the buds opening.  Please
> let me know if I can be of any further assistance and I definitely
> appreciate whatever help you can give us.
> Best regards,
> Monica MacLeod
> 
> Plant when we first received it and base of main plant and bloom spike.
> First pictures of buds.2-weeks later-individual buds opening.2-weeks
> later-overall picture of bloom spike and plant.
> 
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