Re: Alocasias
- Subject: Re: Alocasias
- From: P* B* <p*@googlemail.com>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:06:50 +0800
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Dear
John, Apologies
for the slow reply; have just been attending the Nancy aroid conference, then
to Munich to Josef’s collection, and then to Firenze to work in the
Beccari Herbarium; just back today. Alocasia
robusta
is not easy and invariably reacts very badly to transplanting. We have
found the only way to grow successfully it is to plant ex vitro into the
final size pot (looks ludicrous for a long but works) or to sown seeds (3 -4)
into the final size pot or final growing place. In
the wild it is a gap-phase plant, and in cultivation needs nearly full sun or
very light shade. It is also definitely a plant for a mineral soil; in habitat
the largest plants are always in the local terat series red soils with light
leaf litter cover. Very
best Peter From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Dear
Peter,
Do you have any thoughts about the difficulty of cultivating A. robusta?
I got one growing nicely in a 10” pot, but on planting it in nice,
leafmouldy, well drained soil, it went into reverse and disappeared. Of course
I couldn’t grow it to maximum size in a container. John. From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce Dear
Alison, It
is my belief that even in the wild forest Alocasia often go through
periods of boom and bust; with the plants reaching a peak of physical
perfection and the often soon afterwards ‘crashing’; the
cycle in the wild seems to be ameliorated by the rejuvenation induced by
regular leaf fall, but in pots there is a real danger that the pieces of the
disarticulated rhizome do not get the chance to rejuvenate before they run out
of stored carbohydrate, and then seem to lose the ability (will?) to re-grow. Another
factor that is only now becoming clear is that Alocasia, and many other
terrestrial aroids too, I suspect, have some mycrorrhizal association. I first
began to suspect this on finding super-vigorous specimens with infeasibly small
root systems in the wild. Clearly the roots were too small to support the
nutrient uptake that the plants needed, and yet the plants were thriving. The
point was reinforced by observations of litter-trapping Schismatoglottis,
notably species in the S. barbata complex, where investigation of the
leaf litter revealed copious fungal hyphae and significant composting of the
oldest leaf litter, with the plants rooting from the stem and through the leaf
bases into this composted material and the decomposing leaves above. >From our
experiments we have observed a beneficial fungal population developing in the
leaf litter within a couple of months, and a notable increase in plant vigour
at this time. In fact, we no longer apply fertilizer to our plants (a
considerable saving in time and money with ca 10,000 individual pots...) and
this despite the fact that the nursery receives 5+ m of rain per anuum, and
thus the flow-through of nutrients from the pots must be considerable. On
the subject of watering, our plants get watered every day, either from our
virtually daily torrential downpours, or, in ‘dry’ periods from
overhead sprinklers. Even in dry periods humidity seldom drops below 70%. The
key is well-drained media and making sure that the rhizome is not totally
buried. The crucial thing is that the leaf litter layer should not become dry
(leaves crispy). The leaf litter (topmost leaves) remain damp and the leaves
flexible. One
note, once you get the fungal hyphae community underway, the leaf litter will
decompose fairly quickly. We ‘top up’ the leaves regularly to
ensure that there are always fresh leaves on top of the decomposing and
composted ones. Very
best Peter From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of STARSELL@aol.com Dear Peter, Thank you much for posting this! I have two that I just re-planted per your below Rx. I knew they were alive but I had not seen much improvement using the method I described, at least they were not continuing to decline. I don't know what happened to them. All of my other
Alocasias are thriving. One, a zebrina got knocked over and the stems bent and would not straighten; the other a cuprea just randomly began to droop until nothing was left but the tuber. At least now I have some hope. The pots do look funny
though; all that leaf litter. But now I have real hope. One question - about watering this. Do you guess at
it? Feel the loam to see if it is damp? Go by the weight of the pot? I wondered about leaving the loam only damp and moistening the leaf litter on the top? Alison In a message dated 6/29/2009 9:38:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
phymatarum@googlemail.com writes:
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