Re: Alocasias
- Subject: Re: Alocasias
- From: &* C* <c*@spiceisle.com>
- Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:18:47 -0700
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Dear Peter, Do
you have any thoughts about the difficulty of cultivating A. robusta? I
got one growing nicely in a 10” pot, but on planting it in nice,
leafmouldy, well drained soil, it went into reverse and disappeared. Of course
I couldn’t grow it to maximum size in a container. John. From:
aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce Dear Alison, It is my belief that even in the wild forest Alocasia often go through periods of boom
and bust; with the plants reaching a peak of physical perfection and the
often soon afterwards ‘crashing’; the cycle in the wild seems to be
ameliorated by the rejuvenation induced by regular leaf fall, but in pots there
is a real danger that the pieces of the disarticulated rhizome do not get the
chance to rejuvenate before they run out of stored carbohydrate, and then seem
to lose the ability (will?) to re-grow. Another factor that is only now becoming clear is
that Alocasia, and many other
terrestrial aroids too, I suspect, have some mycrorrhizal association. I first
began to suspect this on finding super-vigorous specimens with infeasibly small
root systems in the wild. Clearly the roots were too small to support the
nutrient uptake that the plants needed, and yet the plants were thriving. The
point was reinforced by observations of litter-trapping Schismatoglottis, notably species in the S. barbata complex, where investigation of
the leaf litter revealed copious fungal hyphae and significant composting of
the oldest leaf litter, with the plants rooting from the stem and through the
leaf bases into this composted material and the decomposing leaves above. From
our experiments we have observed a beneficial fungal population developing in
the leaf litter within a couple of months, and a notable increase in plant
vigour at this time. In fact, we no longer apply fertilizer to our plants (a
considerable saving in time and money with ca 10,000 individual pots...) and
this despite the fact that the nursery receives 5+ m of rain per anuum, and
thus the flow-through of nutrients from the pots must be considerable. On the subject of watering, our plants get watered
every day, either from our virtually daily torrential downpours, or, in
‘dry’ periods from overhead sprinklers. Even in dry periods
humidity seldom drops below 70%. The key is well-drained media and making sure
that the rhizome is not totally buried. The crucial thing is that the leaf
litter layer should not become dry (leaves crispy). The leaf litter (topmost
leaves) remain damp and the leaves flexible. One note, once you get the fungal hyphae community
underway, the leaf litter will decompose fairly quickly. We ‘top
up’ the leaves regularly to ensure that there are always fresh leaves on
top of the decomposing and composted ones. Very best Peter From:
aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of STARSELL@aol.com Dear Peter, Thank you much for
posting this! I have two that I just re-planted per your
below Rx. I knew they were alive
but I had not seen much improvement using the method I
described, at least they were not continuing to decline. I don't know what
happened to them. All of my other Alocasias are thriving. One,
a zebrina got knocked over and the stems bent and would not
straighten; the other a cuprea just randomly began to droop until
nothing was left but the tuber. At least now I have some
hope. The pots do look funny though; all that leaf
litter. But now I have real hope. One question - about
watering this. Do you guess at it? Feel the loam to see if it is
damp? Go by the weight of the pot? I wondered about leaving
the loam only damp and moistening the leaf litter on the top? Alison In a message dated
6/29/2009 9:38:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, phymatarum@googlemail.com writes:
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