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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:38
Subject: [Aroid-l] black
i can speak a bit to david fell's ebay listings to which you
refer. i do not know david (vriesea2003). i do not know anything about
him. but i bought one of his regale x "black warocqueanum" hybrids a few
weeks ago. i certainly don't know for sure what exactly i have, but it is a
huge plant for an ebay seedling and in perfect shape with a pot chock full of
great roots. the photo on the web is of the one he sold me, and the newest
leaf to the top left is over 18" long. i paid $46 for it and am quite
i believe you have not read his listing carefully. first, he does not
advertise it as anthurium regale, but rather as "anthurium regale seedling
second, he does not say that anthurium regale has leaves 6 ft long. he
says, "Anthurium regale is a truly magnificent plant. It grows to 6 ft.
or larger and has leaves almost a yard long."
"leaves almost a yard long" seems well within your description - smaller
than mardy's plant.
regarding the "black warocqueanum," i think it's actually pretty
straightforward of david to say,
"While it is similar to A. warocqueanum there are many important
differences, such as the leaf color which is much blacker than warocqueanum
and it has silver veins as opposed to chartreuse veins of warocqueanum.
The leaves are almost flat compared to the slight cupping of warocqueanum and
the spadix is almost pure white. It also has a very small seed."
he doesn't hype it as something it's not. he doesn't say "incredible" or
"fantastic" or "last one you'll see for a long time." he just says it's
similar to warocqueanum, with a few differences that he names. the reader is
allowed to decide whether those differences are significant or just
minor variations. how can you be more straightforward than that?
i am not always satisfied with the plants i order from ebay or from any
mail-order source for that matter. well, except for those from enid. her
plants are always great. but i am quite satisfied with my plant from david
fell. i hope this post doesn't boost the bidding for his "black warocqueanum"
up too high, as i may bid for it myself, but he seems honest and fair to
john s. smolowe
menlo park, ca
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] black warocqueanum ? not discribed
Is it hype?
Honestly I can't say, perhaps Tom will comment but he and I have had
conversations about color variations and they don't add up to "undescribed"
species. However, the same seller is selling an Anthurium
regale which he
claims can grow 6 foot leaves! Now I thought mine was big with a 30
inch leaf and Doc Darian had grown a whopper with a 48 inch leaf! Either
this seller has not read any scientific books or is using some darn good
fertilizer! Perhaps just a bit of hype?