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Gee, friends could we please not consider this
a sexist thing, just because the name 'Holly' is attached.
Calling this person a witch and other
degrading female equivalence are equally offensive. I too am a
female, but consider myself a 'person' equal to all human being, not lesser in
anyway because of my sex.
Personally, being in my 50's, it is kind of hard to
get over the old-time thought that women are lesser than someone with external
plumbing!
If someone is a nut for their outlandish opinion,
they are a nut. It doesn't have anything to do with their
sex.
Maybe some of you who have responded in this manner
should get over it.
Sincerely,
Windy Aubrey, an aroid enthusiast, not a ball
buster!
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From:
b*@malesiana.com
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] an apolgy if it is
order
Steve,
I live in a country where we constantly struggle
to get our students to read..... believe me...you can NEVER read too much. I
have worked with aroids in one way or another for 30+ years; professionally
for 20+ years... I read about aroids, any aroids, every day. And every day I
learn something new...this week so far I have learned something new about
pollination, the way roots glue themselves to rocks and how the shoot tips of
a rheophytes resist water flow in spate. Tom, who has just tuned 70, has
worked on aroids for over 40 years... he reads every day... Josef has worked
on aroids nerly 50 years... he reads every day... and I would bet that they
too are constantly learning new things.
----- Original Message -----
From:
S*@ExoticRainforest.com
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:56
PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] an apolgy if it is
order
To everyone on Aroid l,
If any apology for some of my comments or questions on
Aroid l is in order, I gladly offer it.
I received a very disturbing message tonight with a direct
copy (slightly edited) that I posted on this forum about my construction of
my epiphyte tree. The message came from a person whose name showed up
as Holly Cooper. I do not know Holly but she has posted a similar
message once before on the GardenWeb. In that case, another individual
had requested a photo of Anthurium cubense. I had taken a
photo of Denis' plant which was tagged Anthurium cubense with
Leland Miyano standing with it at the 2007 IAS Aroid Show. As it
turned out, Leland later pointed out the vein count on that plant did not
match Dr. Croat's scientific description so we learned later that plant is
not a full species and liekly a hybrid. The moderators of the
GardenWeb forum took down her post since it referred to me by a strong
term.
If I have irritated any of you with my constant comments
and questions, I sincerely apologize. I am only a student of aroid
botany and constantly ask questions in order to learn. I don't believe
anyone can find any place on my website or on the net where I have ever
claimed to be an expert in plants. I just study them, ask a lot of
questions of Dr. Croat, Leland and Julius and I probably read too
much. The only aroid experts I know are the ones I try to accurately
quote in my internet articles.
This is what I received from Ms. Cooper. I have
purposely removed her email address:
From Holly Cooper:
YOU ARE SUCH AN
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The people you so religiously quote are ashamed to be associated with
you. Yes! It's true! Emails are flying behind your
back! You are the absolute shame of the UBC horticultural site.
NO ONE wants to be associated with you but out of pity they endure your
presence. STOP GRANDSTANDING. CAN YOU NOT HEAR THE
LAUGHTER??????????????????
Again, my apologies if I have offended anyone on Aroid
l. It was certainly not intended.
Steve Lucas
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