Dear Pete:
I thought so and am glad that
I was not just passing on nonsense. I am glad that I was remembering
correctly.
Tom
From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Boyce
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:16
AM
To: Discussion
of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Chaos in
Monstera names
Hi Marek, Tom, etc.
Sorry I did pick up on the Monstera thread a bit earlier. Tom is correct, M. pertusa
is a Rhaphidophora
(R. pertusa).
Rhaphidophora pertusa (Roxb.) Schott,
Prodr. Syst. Aroid.: 382. 1860; Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 6: 546. 1893. — Pothos pertusus
Roxb., Fl. Ind.
1: 455. 1820. — Monstera
pertusa (Roxb.) Schott, Wiener Z. Kunst 4: 1028. 1830.
— Scindapsus
pertusus (Roxb.) Schott in H.W.Schott &
S.L.Endlicher, Melet. Bot.: 21. 1832. — Rhaphidophora lacera Hassk.,
Flora 25(2 Beibl.): 11. 1842, nom. illeg.
Very large,
very robust, pachycaul, heterophyllous liane to 15 m or more. Stem
robustly terete, 3–5 cm diam., Leaves dense along most of the stem except
the oldest portion. Petiole shallowly canaliculate, 15–30 cm, pulvini
indistinct; petiolar sheath extending 2/3 along the petiole, margins soon
marcescent; lamina (juvenile) rotund, entire, apex abrupt acute, 13 ´ 11
cm; (adult) oblong-ovate, ovate in outline, 20–50 ´ 15–25 cm,
irregularly and asymmetrically pinnately cut with the incisions c. ½ way to the
mid-rib and sometimes occurring as ovate, apex acute, base subcordate,
pinnae 2-5 per side. Inflorescence solitary on tips of free lateral shoots.
Peduncle cylindric, very robust,15–18 ´ 1.5–2 cm. Spathe oblong-ovate, cymbiform, ca. 18 ´ 8 cm,
spreading at anthesis, thence falling, yellowish to somewhat pinkish tinged;
spadix cylindric, ca. 10–12 ´ 2–3 cm, base oblique, sessile,
yellow. Fruit hexagonal-obconical, 18 ´ 5 mm, green-white stylar region sloughing
to reveal white or yellow pulp cavity.
Distribution. — Sri Lanka,
S. India through N.E. Himalaya to Bangladesh,
Burma and N.
Thailand
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Croat
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names
Marek:
Monstera
friedrichsthalii is a synonym of A. adansonii but M. pertusa is not even a
Monstera as I recall but rather a Rhapidophora (Pete is this not correct?). M.
karwinskyi is a synonym of M. acuminate, not the other way around. M.
obliqua has lots of synonyms. Madison
lists 7 including M. expilata Schott but I intend to resurrect the latter.
Tom
From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On
Behalf Of Marek Argent
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:13 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names
Hello,
Can anyone authoritatively tell if:
M. friedrichsthalii = M. adansonii = M. pertusa
M. acuminata = M. karwinskyi
M. obliqua has no synonyms
Best
Marek
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