RE: [Aroid-l] Names for different forms?

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From : 	Brian Williams <pugturd@alltel.net>

Reply-To : 	Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent : 	Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:20 AM
To : 	Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Subject : 	[Aroid-l] Names for different forms?

Dear Brian,

This all goes back to an issue that to date has not been 'solved' by the

aroid group, and which is a VERY difficult issue, namely the cultivar names

and the correct registering of these names according to whatever

horticultural rules/laws that may apply.

The IAS has nominated several people over the past several years ( I can

recall at least three) to do something about setting up some sort of

registry to legitimize some or all of these names which are being bantered

about, but to date I think the progress on instituting this system is not in

place or even being worked on.

I have mentioned on several occasions that when man collectes a certain

plant from nature, he usually selects one which to him is the most

attractive out of several hundred, maybe thousands of other 'less

attractive' specimens he may see in the field. All of these plants, both

the 'attractive' ones AND the less attractive ones are still all variations

of ONE species.

All I can suggest at this time is that you make a label that explains what

the particular clone or var. of that plant is, for example Philodendron

stenolobum var. narrow/wavy/long leaf, and/or P. stenolobum var. short and

broad leaf, or 'Anthurium warocqueanum var. Murline Lydon minature', vs.

'Anthu. warocqueanum var. large leaf '. Collection data and collectors

name would be another good bit of information to keep with all wild

collected plants.

Perhaps Derek Burch can give some sort of suggestion or soloution that may

serve you guys better??

The  Best,

Julius

I have recently been trying to up grade my data base of names as well as

redo all my tags and make sure everything has as much data and information

as possible. I have a few questions on forms. I know many plants have

several forms of the same species. I would like to know if their are names

for these forms or even if the science community really makes note of it?

If not would putting a added portion to the name to help ID different

forms be possible? If so who should come up with these name? Here are a

few for instance off hand that I really think should have some more

information. Their seems to be two very different forms of Veitchii one

with wider leaves and much larger ripples. Then another form with thinner

leaves and a much more rippled effect. I know that naming all slight

different forms would not be worth while but for some very noticeable

differences it could help people know exactly what they are getting and

their seems to be a major price difference in one form compared to the

other. Another one that comes to mind is the two forms of Anthurium

warocqueanum one that can get 3 to 4 feet long and the smaller slender

form with hardly any back lobes. They are very noticeably different yet go

by the exact same name. If one was to order the plant under these name

they could end up with either form though one form of each is usually much

more sought after.<<

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