Re: Anthurium ID

Dear Jonathan:

 

Good, because I thought it would otherwise have been too much of a coincidence.  The plant involved is not at all related to Anthurium gracile (Rudge) Shott, a member of sect. Leptanthurium but rather a member of sect. Porphyrochitonium.  They have blackish glands on the lower and sometimes upper surfaces. I suspect the plant that they have is a new species and I am interested in seeing a dried herbarium specimen and better pictures. Unfortunate, if they got it from Ecuagenera we may never know where it came from. Sometimes I can get them to tell me about specific plants if I ask them but one always wonders if they are just making it up on the fly.

 

Tom

 

From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Ertelt, Jonathan B
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium ID

 

Tom - We are in fact talking about the same plant - I sent the same pictures to John up at Olbrich, so he knew very specifically which plant I was asking about. Perhaps it was sold/bought as a small plant, but even at a much smaller stage I can't imagine that it would have been mistaken for A. salviniae. But yes, the conversation is still revolving around the same plant.

 

Jonathan

From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] on behalf of Tom Croat [Thomas.Croat@mobot.org]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 5:14 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium ID

Dear Jonathan and John:

 

Are you guys possibly talking about the same plant that someone sent me recently which was also seen at Olbrich Conservatory that I responded to?  Probably not because the plant I saw was Anthurium sect. Porphyrochitonium with orange berries but the coincidence of getting two messages about plants from Olbrich BG in the same week is a surprise.

 

Tom

 

From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Ertelt, Jonathan B
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:31 AM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium ID

 

Here’s the background on the Anthurium in question at Olbrich Botanical Gardens in response to my query yesterday:

Hello Jonathan,
 
The anthurium in question was purchased from a vendor, Ecuagenera of Cuenca, Ecuador in February of 2007 at the local orchid show, “Orchid Quest”.  The label said A. salviniae but it quickly became apparent as it grew in our greenhouses that is was not.  The plant was in our growing greenhouses since 2007 and I just planted it in the conservatory this past summer. I haven’t noticed if the fruits turn red but will let you know if they do.  We belong to the I.A.S. so I will keep an eye out for any other thoughts on this plant.
 
If anyone from your group will be stopping by in the future please have them contact me as I have some unknown anthurium species in the greenhouse that I have collected in Ecuador over the years and would like some identification. Thank you.    
 
John
John W. Wirth
Conservatory Curator
Olbrich Botanical Gardens
3330 Atwood Avenue
Madison, WI  53704
www.olbrich.org
ph: 608-246-4722
fx:  608-246-4719
 

From: Ertelt, Jonathan B [j*@Vanderbilt.Edu]
Subject: Question about plant i.d.in the conservatory

John,
    I’m not sure that we’ve met, though the possibility is there, especially as we’re both members in AERGC. An old directory is how I came up with your email address – I hope that it’s still current.
Yesterday a fellow aroid enthusiast posted the two pictures which I have attached, having recently passed through Madison on stopping in at your conservatory. He was inquiring to the aroid group at large as to whether anyone had any thoughts as to the i.d. of this Anthurium. To me it resembles a very well grown plant of Anthurium pageanum, except that the fruits should be red, but maybe they’re still in the process of turning. I think that I distributed that species through the AERGC several several years back now, but wasn’t sure whether it had made it up to Wisconsin or not. I know that I’ve met several Wisconsin AERGC players over the years. At any rate, I was wondering if you had any information on this plant that you could pass along. My thanks in advance. Good Growing.

Jonathan
Jonathan Ertelt, Greenhouse Manager
Vanderbilt University
Nashville, TN  37235 

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