Re: Varigated ZZ`s and more.

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>From : 	Michael Mahan <agavestar@covad.net>
Reply-To : 	Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent : 	Monday, October 29, 2007 6:31 AM
To : 	"'Discussion of aroids'" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Subject : 	Re: [Aroid-l] Varigated ZZ`s and more.

Dear Friends,

>From the limited response which was posted thus far, it seems that some 
labs/people are in fact using chemicals and other methods to 'create' 
varigated "sports'' of plants, some of which soon revert back to an 
all-green state, some seem able to "hold" the varigation.
Other varigations (and cultivars differenig from the original) seem to just 
"turn up" in batches of plants created from the tissue culture processes, 
and are chosen out of large batches as "cultivars' of a certain species.
I guess that we can only wait and see where this trend goes, and meanwhile 
let the buyer beware!

Thanks to all,

Julius

>>Limited info so far ..  as there is a lab that is using a chemical that
induces it (variegation ) while the tissue is being cultured but they
seem
to be holding their cards tightly to the chest as a bunch of agaves are
showing up that way ,  that lab is in Northeast -New England  .. BUT the
outcome is very variable right now & the clones seem to revert back ,
some
very fast under good culture & I'll find the link to it but there is
one
lab is in the EU that is doing succulents much the same way & auctioning
off
the mistakes as they are wildly colored .. any variegate collectors be
way
cautious  about new clones as the reversions back to green are wide
spread
thru may species from what I am hearing thru rumors from other
dealers/collectors .. seems there are a few well known nurseries
involved
but all this is rumor,  So no flaming        .. Michael Mahan

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On Behalf Of Julius Boos
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:05 AM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: [Aroid-l] Varigated ZZ`s and more.

>From : 	Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>
Reply-To : 	Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent : 	Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:19 PM
To : 	Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Subject : 	Re: [Aroid-l] Forms of ZZ plant -thanks + a tissue culture
question

Dear Ken,

Thanks for the info:, from what I`ve heard, there is "something" going
on
with this "varigated" kick, all sorts of plants are popping up in a
varigated form.   A friend hinted to me that there is a process being
used
to induce this varigation in MANY plants, just recently I heard of a
couple
plants of varigated Philodendron goeldii for sale in Asia, and even in
other
plant families way too many varigated cultivars are turning up for it
just
to be by chance.
Does anyone have any info. on this??

The Best,

Julius

>>The very expensive Zamioculcas for sale at the IAS show was
variegated.
That's why it was $100. There were several rooted cuttings in each
plastic sleeve and there were two available for sale.

-Ken Mosher

Julius Boos wrote:
>
>Dear Adam,
>
>Thanks for the kind words.   Remember, I only suggested (in another
posting)
>   that the Zamioculcas now commonly available because of tissue
culture may
>be modified and so be larger and more attractive 'selections' than the
wild
>'mother' plant might be.   As far as I know little data is availabe on
these
>figures/facts.
>Like you, I like to have at last one wild-collected plant which the
tissue
>cultured plants can be compared to!
>There seem to be quite a few 'new' cultivars/selections which are said
to
>have been individuals selected and propagated from batches produced
from
>tissue culture.  Several Alocasias, Philodendrons, Caladiums, etc.
come to
>mind.
>Michael Mahan reports that he saw cuttings of Zamioculcus for sale at
the
>IAS show for over $100.00, and others across the room, large potted 
>specimens, for $30.00.   I think that we can say that the cheaper ones
were
>the tissue-cultured specimens, I only wish I knew more about the story 
>behind the specimens which were being sold for expensive prices!
>
>The Best,
>
>Julius
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