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Re: giant form A. paeoniifolius

  • Subject: Re: giant form A. paeoniifolius
  • From: "John Criswick" <criswick@spiceisle.com>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:35:00 -0400

Title: Re: [Aroid-l] giant form A. paeoniifolius

Having read about this “giant” A. paeoniifolius, I was intrigued, until I came to realize that what I have, and the only form I have ever known, must be the giant !


Here are 2 photos I just took of a specimen in my garden.  Leaning near it is a regular sized wooden palette as used for the shipping of goods by sea.


I am 6 foot 2 ½ inches (189.23 cm.) tall and I just stood next to the trunk and the canopy was about an inch above my head.


This specimen receives full sun for much of the day, and I have taller specimens growing in shade. None received any fertilizer and they volunteered where they are.


I obtained my corms from the late John Brudy (John Brudy’s Rare Plant House) in Cocoa Beach, Florida in the 1970s.


The flowers are of course very sizeable, approaching 2 feet across.  The corms are about 18 inches across.


The trunk of this specimen is 4 ½ inches near the base .




From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of ju-bo@msn.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] giant form A. paeoniifolius


Dear Derek and Friends,

I recall a photo taken at Fairchild Gardens in Miami in an EARLY "Aroideana'' of our old friend Craig Phillips standing under the canopy of a leaf of what was labeled then as A. titanum, this was later  corrected, it was A. paeoniifolius.  Craig stood at LEAST 6' tall, and the canopy began to spread a little  OVER his head, so the petiole MUST have been about 6' 4" tall, maybe 5" in dia. at its base?
A couple/three years ago, at the Sept. aroid show and sale, I assisted Ron Weeks and others in hauling a HUGE tub with a GIANT plant of A. paeoniifolius from the rare plant house at Fairchild up and into the ''display hall'', this plant easily rivaled in size the one in the old photo, and, who knows, might even have been the SAME plant as was shown in the photo!
So--we know that a giant exists/used to exist at Fairchild, Scott USED to have a couple, and there were a few more hanging around in collections a few years ago.
I don`t know about the blooming of these giant plants, I`ll ask my buddy Bobby, he just MIGHT know, or maybe our resident expert Wilbert may chime in?
I USED to be able to purchase soft-ball sized A. paeon. corms at an Indian Grocery on Okeechobee Blvd. here in W.P.B. (I still get eddoes, Colocasia esculenta ''antiquorom'' there!), but I have not seen them available in a couple of years, I must ask the owner where he used to obtain them, they were VERY popular with folks from the S. India/Cylon areas, used seasonally at weddings/feasts, called ''suran'', also available cooked and in cans.
I hope that this helps!

Good Growing, all.


From: derek@horticulturist.com
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:19:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] giant form A. paeoniifolius

Hello Julius and everyone,


I wonder if these giant corms are the result of the breeding program in the Indian subcontinent. Please see back issues of Aroideana on this. If so, I suspect that one of the side results of the program has been to minimize the likelihood of flowering of these corms. I know this to be the case for some of the named cultivars.


I find this size corm in UK greengrocers in the summer, and I am told that the general name is suran – perhaps one of many names in various parts of the subcontinent. I have had no luck so far in finding them in South Florida grocers. To be honest, I don’t think that 24” diameter is particularly unusual or “giant” – mine go at least 18” and that is with my appalling growing skills.




From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of ju-bo@msn.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:53 AM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] giant form A. paeoniifolius


Dear All,

This giant form of A. paeoniifolius is available in S. Florida, so there should not be a need to import it.  
I'll wait to see if and when the owners/growers shake the dust off their shoes and the sand out of their eyes and reply to this forum!! 
I saw a tuber that must have measured close to 24" in dia. some years ago.   I THINK Scott had and may have sold some plants of this giant clone??



Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:18:40 -0500
From: LLmen@wi.rr.com
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] giant form A. paeoniifolius

If anyone else would be interested in obtaining tubers or seed, perhaps a group order could be initiated, depending upon the costs.

Just a thought,

Don Martinson
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

On 9/27/09 8:48 AM, "Raj Shekhar Misra" <rajshekharmisra@yahoo.com> wrote:

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From: Dan Jackson <rupert68@gmail.com>
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Sent: Thursday, 24 September, 2009 11:03:49 AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] giant form A. paeoniifolius

hello to the group.

I am looking for a source for the large, tall growing form of or "giant" form of A. paeoniifolius.

can anyone advise?




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