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Re: [aroid-l] ZZ Plant

  • Subject: Re: [aroid-l] ZZ Plant
  • From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter@worldonline.nl
  • Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:47:21 +0200
  • Importance: Normal

Sorry to disturb your euphoria peoples, but we have the small one in Leiden
as well and it has no other relevant differences from the big one, not one
single detail in the flowers differs etc. Conclusion: one and the same
species in all probability. I discussed this thing with Peter several times
and we alwys concluded that it is probably just variation, as is the trade
with organisms under the influence of evolutionary forces.

As for my shape...........hmmmm, could do better.......


> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu
> [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Julius Boos
> Verzonden: woensdag 11 september 2002 12:08
> Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] ZZ Plant
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <araceae@earthlink.net>
> To: <aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [aroid-l] ZZ Plant
> Great that you have this information to share with us, Dewey!
>    I took my
> info. (that there was but one species) directly from the best
> available
> source, The Genera of Araceae, Peter Boyce is one of the
> authors, but the
> book was most probably published before the mix up w/ the type and the
> second larger species was discovered!   This is the nice thing (to me
> anyway!) about taxonomy and research, there is always more to
> be learned!
> This is yet another example of the role us hobbyists plany in
> research, lots
> of the important informatuion about these plants comes from just mere
> growers like you and I  !!!     With our help the taxonomists
> will be in
> good shape in 100 years!   :--)
> It is good that this second species (in fact the type species) and the
> common second sp. is grown by you, and is available to those
> who would like
> to purchase a plant!!    I will be checking it out soon!    Be well.
> Sincerely,
> Julius
> >>Sorry to disagree, Julius...  There are at least two...  I have two.
> One is quite a bit smaller than the 'Regular' one...  Last year,
> after a presentation at the IAS, I discussed this with Peter Boyce
> and he told me this amazing story....
> Seems that the monograph for this plant was written by studying a
> painting that is at Kew.  Guess what, the painting is of the smaller
> plant...  not the one that we know as ZZ....  So, to get the
> Taxonomists going...  The ZZ plant that we grow ISN'T!!! The smaller
> one is!!!  And, the one that we are calling ZZ is actually Z sp.  To
> add some wood to the fire... It is also suspected that there are
> other species in the wild that have not been found as yet....
> Do you think the Taxonomists will ever get their 'stuff' together?
> Dewey
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Harry Witmore <harrywitmore@witmore.net>
> >To: <aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu>
> >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:30 PM
> >Subject: Re: [aroid-l] ZZ Plant
> >
> >
> >Nope---only one species known in this genus.
> >
> >Julius
> >
> >>>Well, are there any other species of this genus grown or
> is this the only
> >one known?
> >
> >Harry Witmore
> >Cloud Jungle Art
> >www.witmore.net <http://www.witmore.net>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu
> >[mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]On Behalf Of Plantbob@aol.com
> >Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:32 PM
> >To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> >Subject: Re: [aroid-l] ZZ Plant
> >
> >
> >Denis,
> >
> >Thanks for the ZZ info.  I remember these plants being
> delivered in 10"
> pots
> >and they were DOUBLE SLEEVED.  You are correct, a few leaves
> were broken
> >after unsleeving.  If only people knew how many times a
> plant gets handled
> >before it arrives here in the Northeast, they would be
> shocked.  In the
> end,
> >the ZZ is different from the 'run of the mill' tropical
> plant and people
> are
> >looking for the odd item.   Bob K
> --
>                         Your Source for Tropical Araceae
>                                     go to
>                        http://home.earthlink.net/~araceae/

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