Re: [Aroid-l] Gonatopus species-Yup!

Hi Julius,

No, it's not Amorph symonianus. While my particular plant does not have a well-pronounced 'knee' others on the sales table did (mine has the knee but it's not a textbook example). The swollen joints I mentioned are not the intercalary bulbils of symonianus (which I'm familiar with). Aside from which Am. symonianus would have one large bulbil at the top of the petiole (plus additional bulbils at further divisions of the leaflet on larger plants). On this plant the place where the leaf first begins to divide into its three primary groupings of leaflets has three large rounded joints.

I will get a photo this evening, assuming I can convince my camera to autofocus on what I'm pointing at! Then I'll post it here in a size that shouldn't annoy dial-up list members.

-Ken

Julius Boos wrote:


From :     Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>



Reply-To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Sent : Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:35 PM

To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Gonatopus species-solved



Dear Ken,



Loiter I did, but will do more of it next year if God spares life!

Now I have to re-think my ID which was just based on the report that it
was an all-green Gonotopus.

You say that it has these three large, rounded areas on the three joints
near to where the three veins of the leaf meet. This sounds to me
like the seller made a misidentification of a plant, perhaps THINKING it
was the all-green form of G. bovinii, but IF your plant does NOT have
the very obvious

'knee'' about 2/3 the way up the petiole, it sounds to me at this point,
and without seeing an actual photograph, that you may have bought an
Amorphophallus simoneanum. I did see some of these at the show.
These three swollen areas that you describe are actually a form of
bulbil, and all three will fall out of the dried leaf and grow as new
plants.



Good Luck,



Julius








Sorry Julius, if I'd seen you loitering about I'd have asked you! You
really must do more loitering in the future.



It certainly is a different looking plant even aside from the solid
green color. At the place where the petiole divides into three, the
three joints are very large and rounded. But if His P'ness (don't say
that too fast) says they're both G. boivinii then it must be so...



-Ken>>



Julius Boos wrote:



From : Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>

Reply-To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Sent : Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:22 AM

To : Aroid list <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Subject : [Aroid-l] Gonatopus species?



Dear Ken,



No one asked me! "Believe it or don`t", as the old "Mad Magazine' used
to say, I have been told that this all-green, giant Gonotopus is the
very same G. bovinii, the common 'giraffe leg' or whatever, the other
one with the beautiful markings which grows to a substantially smaller
plant, at least the experts including "Lord P" whom have grown it and
studied the 'naughty bits' along the spadix say that they are a match!

So there now!



Julius





At that IAS show/sale there were several plants of a solid
green (no spots, stripes or bloches) Gonatopus with no certain species
listed. Nobody there was able to identify the species. Does anyone else
have any ideas?



I can take a photo and post it later if required.



Thanks,

Ken<<

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