Postings discussion
- Subject: [cg] Postings discussion
- From: "Appelhans" l*@srv.net
- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:18:53 -0600
Hi, Don and all,
Speaking from my position in a small Idaho town with only 3 community
gardens I really appreciate the link that this list in general and
individuals postings in particular creates between our small program and the
many other CGs across the country. Though we are small we experience many of
the same challenges that are discussed on the list and are encouraged,
enlightened and/or inspired by the broad range of topics the list presents.
Please continue to help us keep informed and connected.
Kristi
Idaho Falls Community Garden Association
www.srv.net/~klack/com_gard.htm
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2. RE: List serve as "news service," "discussion forum" and
"connection to CG community and broader-than-American network of
gardeners / activists" (Sylvia Holland)
3. Re: RE: List serve as "news service," "discussion forum"
and "connection to CG community and broader-than-American network of
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From: diane benjamin <dianetfl@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:00:35 -0700
To: Don Boekelheide <dboekelheide@yahoo.com>
I vote for sending the URL for the articles and letting individuals
decide if they want to pursue them.
On Aug 20, 2006, at 10:06 PM, Don Boekelheide wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> I'm sympathetic to recent comments that I'm posting
> too many articles about community gardening. This list
> didn't feature that many before (though some were
> posted from time to time, mostly from New York - no
> conspiracy, just some wide-awake people in NYC, and a
> lot of community gardens, over 1000 of them).
>
> I'm doubly sympathetic since I'm personally most
> interested in the technical growing and design
> questions of community gardening and gardening in
> general.
>
> That said, why have I been forwarding these stories?
> Well, I decided to pass along articles about community
> gardens around North America from the media for
> severa; reasons - first, other folks often have great
> ideas I haven't thought of and I wanted to share them
> widely; second, we need to support one another and
> can't do it without knowing what each other is doing
> (and skilled reporters are often very good at telling
> stories, which saves us time); three. in terms of
> sustainability amd grant writing, it is very helpful
> to know what's 'hot' in community gardening, and
> what's not (in terms of gardens that find themselves
> fighting to survive). I guess I also wanted to help
> sing the praises of successful gardens and gardeners.
>
> I confess that the delete key is also a factor - if
> you don't like it, delete it. But, I know, I myself
> don't always read lists with 'too much information'
> even when they are 'good for me' (for instance, on
> some nights, even the list covering events in my Peace
> Corps country, Togo).
>
> When I forwarded fewer articles, there wasn't so much
> of a problem - but admittedly recently there have been
> a lot of articles showing up. Since it takes more time
> for me to write or edit a digested version, and since
> this is all informal, I've just been sending them on
> as they appear.
>
> How about we do this - as a list community, let's
> decide if it makes sense to share these kinds of
> articles on this list. If the general consensus is no,
> end of story, I won't keep posting. If it is yes,
> maybe I can try to be more selective, and for most
> items just post the URL so folks can go visit it if
> they choose, sending full text only for items that
> really catch my eye (of course, you all are free to
> pass on articles too, as well as your questions and
> pearls of garden and community building wisdom).
>
> Since we have a fall garden season here in the
> Southern Piedmont (best time for all brassicas, root
> crops, lettuce...), I don't mind not sending articles.
> I can use all the time I can get out in the garden.
> But I don't mind doing it, either - what do we all
> think?
>
> Good gardening,
>
> Don Boekelheide
> Urban Ministry Center Community Garden
> Charlotte, NC
>
>
> ______________________________________________________
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> of ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the
> ACGA and to find out how to join, please go to http://
> www.communitygarden.org
>
>
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Reply-To: <sholland@radiant.net>
From: "Sylvia Holland" <sholland@radiant.net>
To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:26:03 -0700
Organization: Sylvia Holland
Subject: [cg] RE: List serve as "news service," "discussion forum" and
"connection to CG community and broader-than-American network of
gardeners / activists"
I echo the praise for Don Boekelheide's contributions and thoughtfulness,
Adam Honigman's unflagging generosity in offering factual information and
spirited responses to all topics raised, the administrator's skill in
bundling messages as a digest and eliminating code in the process, and the
richness of perspectives that appear because so many others also take time
to write.
This is a wonderful service. Thank you, all.
When tempted to complain, if any one of us inquires to what we might do
ourselves to improve the situation, rather than suggest action that someone
else should take to make our own loads lighter, . . . I've no doubt that yet
more bounty will keep flowing through the pipeline. It always has.
Appreciatively, Sylvia Holland (Vancouver,Canada)
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2. Re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum' (adam36055@aol.com)
3. List serve is connection to ACGA community (Patty Zehl)
4. Fw: [cg] mail frequency (Randa Shannon)
5. Re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum' (grow19@aol.com)
6. re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum' (Bailey, Sarah)
7. Fwd: Sharing other garden news - thx for keep 'em coming
(adam36055@aol.com)
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:06:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Don Boekelheide <dboekelheide@yahoo.com>
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
Hi, all,
I'm sympathetic to recent comments that I'm posting
too many articles about community gardening. This list
didn't feature that many before (though some were
posted from time to time, mostly from New York - no
conspiracy, just some wide-awake people in NYC, and a
lot of community gardens, over 1000 of them).
I'm doubly sympathetic since I'm personally most
interested in the technical growing and design
questions of community gardening and gardening in
general.
That said, why have I been forwarding these stories?
Well, I decided to pass along articles about community
gardens around North America from the media for
severa; reasons - first, other folks often have great
ideas I haven't thought of and I wanted to share them
widely; second, we need to support one another and
can't do it without knowing what each other is doing
(and skilled reporters are often very good at telling
stories, which saves us time); three. in terms of
sustainability amd grant writing, it is very helpful
to know what's 'hot' in community gardening, and
what's not (in terms of gardens that find themselves
fighting to survive). I guess I also wanted to help
sing the praises of successful gardens and gardeners.
I confess that the delete key is also a factor - if
you don't like it, delete it. But, I know, I myself
don't always read lists with 'too much information'
even when they are 'good for me' (for instance, on
some nights, even the list covering events in my Peace
Corps country, Togo).
When I forwarded fewer articles, there wasn't so much
of a problem - but admittedly recently there have been
a lot of articles showing up. Since it takes more time
for me to write or edit a digested version, and since
this is all informal, I've just been sending them on
as they appear.
How about we do this - as a list community, let's
decide if it makes sense to share these kinds of
articles on this list. If the general consensus is no,
end of story, I won't keep posting. If it is yes,
maybe I can try to be more selective, and for most
items just post the URL so folks can go visit it if
they choose, sending full text only for items that
really catch my eye (of course, you all are free to
pass on articles too, as well as your questions and
pearls of garden and community building wisdom).
Since we have a fall garden season here in the
Southern Piedmont (best time for all brassicas, root
crops, lettuce...), I don't mind not sending articles.
I can use all the time I can get out in the garden.
But I don't mind doing it, either - what do we all
think?
Good gardening,
Don Boekelheide
Urban Ministry Center Community Garden
Charlotte, NC
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:32:01 -0400
From: adam36055@aol.com
Subject: Re: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
To: dboekelheide@yahoo.com, community_garden@mallorn.com
Lookit - Don,
You've made the assumption that people who subscribe to a community garden
list-serv are interested in reading about community gardens.
Some are. Many would like to be. Many are lurkers and feel guilty when they
don't read the content.
There are some who have reading disabilities, got into gardening because
they are "differently abled," and find having all this material to read on
community gardening onorous. They would prefer pictures - so would I, but
we don't have the money or resources to do this.
Others, the complainers, the passive-aggressives, feel the need to whine
about "all of that content," instead of clicking the "delete key," when the
flow becomes too heavy, or they are tired, or want to watch "American Idol,"
re-runs, or the "news flash," on the latest kiddie porn sex scandal.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS: THIS ACGA LIST SERV IS A FREE SERVICE
RUN BY VOLUNTEERS.
IF YOU WERE TO COUNT NOSES, MOST OF THE SUBSCRIBERS ARE NOT ACGA MEMBERS.
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IF THE WHINERS, IN SPECIFIC, HAVE EVER BEEN DUES PAYING
ACGA MEMBERS OR PLAN TO BE. THEY JUST LIKE TO COMPLAIN.
The people who care about community gardens are really grateful for the
content, to read about what is going on in places like our own, in places
where we have never been. We are looking for new ways to build membership,
deal with compost, deal with vandalism, create community, save our gardens,
the best way to espalier pears in a small space - the whole works.
Thank you for what you do, Don,
Best regards,
Adam Honigman
NYC Community Gardener
-----Original Message-----
From: dboekelheide@yahoo.com
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:06 AM
Subject: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
Hi, all,
I'm sympathetic to recent comments that I'm posting
too many articles about community gardening. This list
didn't feature that many before (though some were
posted from time to time, mostly from New York - no
conspiracy, just some wide-awake people in NYC, and a
lot of community gardens, over 1000 of them).
I'm doubly sympathetic since I'm personally most
interested in the technical growing and design
questions of community gardening and gardening in
general.
That said, why have I been forwarding these stories?
Well, I decided to pass along articles about community
gardens around North America from the media for
severa; reasons - first, other folks often have great
ideas I haven't thought of and I wanted to share them
widely; second, we need to support one another and
can't do it without knowing what each other is doing
(and skilled reporters are often very good at telling
stories, which saves us time); three. in terms of
sustainability amd grant writing, it is very helpful
to know what's 'hot' in community gardening, and
what's not (in terms of gardens that find themselves
fighting to survive). I guess I also wanted to help
sing the praises of successful gardens and gardeners.
I confess that the delete key is also a factor - if
you don't like it, delete it. But, I know, I myself
don't always read lists with 'too much information'
even when they are 'good for me' (for instance, on
some nights, even the list covering events in my Peace
Corps country, Togo).
When I forwarded fewer articles, there wasn't so much
of a problem - but admittedly recently there have been
a lot of articles showing up. Since it takes more time
for me to write or edit a digested version, and since
this is all informal, I've just been sending them on
as they appear.
How about we do this - as a list community, let's
decide if it makes sense to share these kinds of
articles on this list. If the general consensus is no,
end of story, I won't keep posting. If it is yes,
maybe I can try to be more selective, and for most
items just post the URL so folks can go visit it if
they choose, sending full text only for items that
really catch my eye (of course, you all are free to
pass on articles too, as well as your questions and
pearls of garden and community building wisdom).
Since we have a fall garden season here in the
Southern Piedmont (best time for all brassicas, root
crops, lettuce...), I don't mind not sending articles.
I can use all the time I can get out in the garden.
But I don't mind doing it, either - what do we all
think?
Good gardening,
Don Boekelheide
Urban Ministry Center Community Garden
Charlotte, NC
______________________________________________________
The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's
services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find
out
how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org
To post an e-mail to the list: community_garden@mallorn.com
To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription:
https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 3
From: "Patty Zehl" <pzehl@ksu.edu>
To: "ACGA List Serve" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:27:07 -0500
Subject: [cg] List serve is connection to ACGA community
I'm really happy to receive the emails from Don, Adam and others. Please
don't be discouraged at the few people who have chosen to drop off the list
serve. Please, keep providing us with valuable information which I would not
have the time or resources to discover for myself. Your emails have helped
to connect me to fellow community gardeners around the country; whose
concerns, trials, successes and failures have been informative, inspiring
and instructional.
I appreciate your care in the preview provided by in the "subject" line. I
can easily delete what I am not interested in.
Patty Zehl
Manhattan Community Garden
Manhattan, KS
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Reply-To: "Randa Shannon" <mildredsdaughters@earthlink.net>
From: "Randa Shannon" <mildredsdaughters@earthlink.net>
To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
Subject: Fw: [cg] mail frequency
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:38:07 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: Randa Shannon
To: chelseaxmolli@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [cg] mail frequency
Thanks for the suggestions...I am not very internet savvy, obviously. I am
going to figure out how to set up folders as Bonnie suggested. My email has
become overwhelming as business and urban ag. stuff expand, so this folder
thing should be great. I also went to the list site and asked to receive the
digest as Don suggested.
I do recognize that the stream of references is of value to many and a work
of
service. I think what bothers me in part is the awareness of the constant
battle for survival of community gardens everywhere. I was aware of this
before joining ACGA, but now it seems like every garden is endangered. Way
easier to bury my head in the compost pile. Or at least find a way to read
the news when I am ready.
As for american idol and kiddy porn, most people I know find gardening in
competition with jobs that pay rent and buy groceries or with the time and
effort to run a household with kids and elders..
Maybe you all know each other and the insult level of discourse is accepted
as
humorous and any comment on process is whining. Is Adam the "moderator".?.I
dunno....I'm a stranger here myself.
Thanks again for the positive direction from most.
Randa
----- Original Message -----
From: chelseaxmolli@comcast.net
To: Randa Shannon
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [cg] mail frequency
Randa,
I can understand this sentiment - although my interests differ.
My solution is to use my email program to sort incoming mail into folders
based on the [cg] in the subject line. All mail from this list goes into its
own folder. When I have time, I scan through the subject lines of the emails
in this folder with my finger posed over the delete key. Finally, I come
back
to read what is of potential interest to me. I miss some emails that change
topics when the sender does not change the subject line - but then I'd miss
all emails if I unsubscribed. Also, I find this method less tedious than
scanning through a digest list; and, for me, it's more amenable to the
external interruptions that are more frequent in my life than the number of
emails from this list.
Bonnie
Arlington, TX
On Aug 20, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Randa Shannon wrote:
Perhaps a digest listing news articles /sources re community gardening
which you find of interest would serve some members better than 7 or 8
seperate emails....I personally find that a little much and have considered
unsubscribing. I am more interested in the practical exchange of
information.
The dialogue about paths is typical of what I want and that is a day to day
conversation The politics of gardens is of interest but I don't want every
article about every garden mailed to me.
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
matter."
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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Message: 5
From: Grow19@aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:56:27 EDT
Subject: Re: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
keep up the news as well as the dialogue (forum). both are valuable and
many of us would otherwise never see the news stories. learn to be easy
with
the delete key if messages don't interest.
judy tiger, washington dc
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:57:12 -0400
From: "Bailey, Sarah" <sarah.bailey@uconn.edu>
To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
Subject: [cg] re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
Don -
I, for one, find the news articles interesting, helpful and informative.
As noted, I can always hit the delete button.... But the articles give
me a sense of what's happening around the country (and world, on
occasion!) in the realm of community gardening, which I find as
important and useful as the more practical and focused discussions on
specific topics within community gardening. Please, keep up the good
work!
Sarah Bailey
Master Gardener Program Coordinator
Hartford County, CT
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:20:13 -0400
From: adam36055@aol.com
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] Fwd: Sharing other garden news - thx for keep 'em coming
-----Original Message-----
From: DanielsB@stcsc.edu
To: dboekelheide@yahoo.com
Cc: adam36055@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Sharing other garden news - thx for keep 'em coming
Don: Adam, as always, is on target. I join his ranks in supporting
your sharing news from other gardens. I particularly appreciate your
sending the whole article rather than the URL. I can scan every
article, flag those that I need, file the others to search later. If
you send URLs, it slows down my perusing and encumbers later searches.
Thank you, and keep on sending the whole news (~: B
-----Original Message-----
From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
[community_garden-admin@mallorn.com] On Behalf Of
adam36055@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:32 AM
To: dboekelheide@yahoo.com; community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
Lookit - Don,
You've made the assumption that people who subscribe to a community
garden list-serv are interested in reading about community gardens.
Some are. Many would like to be. Many are lurkers and feel guilty when
they don't read the content.
There are some who have reading disabilities, got into gardening because
they are "differently abled," and find having all this material to read
on community gardening onorous. They would prefer pictures - so would
I, but we don't have the money or resources to do this.
Others, the complainers, the passive-aggressives, feel the need to whine
about "all of that content," instead of clicking the "delete key," when
the flow becomes too heavy, or they are tired, or want to watch
"American Idol," re-runs, or the "news flash," on the latest kiddie porn
sex scandal.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS: THIS ACGA LIST SERV IS A FREE
SERVICE RUN BY VOLUNTEERS.
IF YOU WERE TO COUNT NOSES, MOST OF THE SUBSCRIBERS ARE NOT ACGA
MEMBERS.
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IF THE WHINERS, IN SPECIFIC, HAVE EVER BEEN DUES
PAYING ACGA MEMBERS OR PLAN TO BE. THEY JUST LIKE TO COMPLAIN.
The people who care about community gardens are really grateful for the
content, to read about what is going on in places like our own, in
places where we have never been. We are looking for new ways to build
membership, deal with compost, deal with vandalism, create community,
save our gardens, the best way to espalier pears in a small space - the
whole works.
Thank you for what you do, Don,
Best regards,
Adam Honigman
NYC Community Gardener
-----Original Message-----
From: dboekelheide@yahoo.com
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:06 AM
Subject: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
Hi, all,
I'm sympathetic to recent comments that I'm posting
too many articles about community gardening. This list
didn't feature that many before (though some were
posted from time to time, mostly from New York - no
conspiracy, just some wide-awake people in NYC, and a
lot of community gardens, over 1000 of them).
I'm doubly sympathetic since I'm personally most
interested in the technical growing and design
questions of community gardening and gardening in
general.
That said, why have I been forwarding these stories?
Well, I decided to pass along articles about community
gardens around North America from the media for
severa; reasons - first, other folks often have great
ideas I haven't thought of and I wanted to share them
widely; second, we need to support one another and
can't do it without knowing what each other is doing
(and skilled reporters are often very good at telling
stories, which saves us time); three. in terms of
sustainability amd grant writing, it is very helpful
to know what's 'hot' in community gardening, and
what's not (in terms of gardens that find themselves
fighting to survive). I guess I also wanted to help
sing the praises of successful gardens and gardeners.
I confess that the delete key is also a factor - if
you don't like it, delete it. But, I know, I myself
don't always read lists with 'too much information'
even when they are 'good for me' (for instance, on
some nights, even the list covering events in my Peace
Corps country, Togo).
When I forwarded fewer articles, there wasn't so much
of a problem - but admittedly recently there have been
a lot of articles showing up. Since it takes more time
for me to write or edit a digested version, and since
this is all informal, I've just been sending them on
as they appear.
How about we do this - as a list community, let's
decide if it makes sense to share these kinds of
articles on this list. If the general consensus is no,
end of story, I won't keep posting. If it is yes,
maybe I can try to be more selective, and for most
items just post the URL so folks can go visit it if
they choose, sending full text only for items that
really catch my eye (of course, you all are free to
pass on articles too, as well as your questions and
pearls of garden and community building wisdom).
Since we have a fall garden season here in the
Southern Piedmont (best time for all brassicas, root
crops, lettuce...), I don't mind not sending articles.
I can use all the time I can get out in the garden.
But I don't mind doing it, either - what do we all
think?
Good gardening,
Don Boekelheide
Urban Ministry Center Community Garden
Charlotte, NC
______________________________________________________
The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of
ACGA's
services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to
find out
how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org
To post an e-mail to the list: community_garden@mallorn.com
To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription:
https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
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Message: 3
From: "Jude Carson" <cleobar@nbnet.nb.ca>
To: <sholland@radiant.net>, <community_garden@mallorn.com>
Subject: Re: [cg] RE: List serve as "news service," "discussion forum"
and "connection to CG community and broader-than-American network of
gardeners / activists"
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:58:05 -0300
reply-type=original
I echo these sentiments!
Jude Carson
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvia Holland" <sholland@radiant.net>
To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: [cg] RE: List serve as "news service," "discussion forum" and
"connection to CG community and broader-than-American network of gardeners /
activists"
>I echo the praise for Don Boekelheide's contributions and thoughtfulness,
> Adam Honigman's unflagging generosity in offering factual information and
> spirited responses to all topics raised, the administrator's skill in
> bundling messages as a digest and eliminating code in the process, and the
> richness of perspectives that appear because so many others also take time
> to write.
>
>
>
> This is a wonderful service. Thank you, all.
>
>
>
> When tempted to complain, if any one of us inquires to what we might do
> ourselves to improve the situation, rather than suggest action that
> someone
> else should take to make our own loads lighter, . . . I've no doubt that
> yet
> more bounty will keep flowing through the pipeline. It always has.
>
>
>
> Appreciatively, Sylvia Holland (Vancouver,Canada)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
> [community_garden-admin@mallorn.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:00 AM
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #2513 - 7 msgs
>
>
>
>
>
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> Today's Topics:
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>
> 1. List as 'news service' as well as 'forum' (Don Boekelheide)
>
> 2. Re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum' (adam36055@aol.com)
>
> 3. List serve is connection to ACGA community (Patty Zehl)
>
> 4. Fw: [cg] mail frequency (Randa Shannon)
>
> 5. Re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum' (grow19@aol.com)
>
> 6. re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum' (Bailey, Sarah)
>
> 7. Fwd: Sharing other garden news - thx for keep 'em coming
> (adam36055@aol.com)
>
>
>
> -- __--__--
>
>
>
> Message: 1
>
>
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>
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> GLpRvVm32bfaKK2vO+txY=
>
> ;
>
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:06:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
> From: Don Boekelheide <dboekelheide@yahoo.com>
>
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>
> Subject: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
>
>
>
> Hi, all,
>
>
>
> I'm sympathetic to recent comments that I'm posting
>
> too many articles about community gardening. This list
>
> didn't feature that many before (though some were
>
> posted from time to time, mostly from New York - no
>
> conspiracy, just some wide-awake people in NYC, and a
>
> lot of community gardens, over 1000 of them).
>
>
>
> I'm doubly sympathetic since I'm personally most
>
> interested in the technical growing and design
>
> questions of community gardening and gardening in
>
> general.
>
>
>
> That said, why have I been forwarding these stories?
>
> Well, I decided to pass along articles about community
>
> gardens around North America from the media for
>
> severa; reasons - first, other folks often have great
>
> ideas I haven't thought of and I wanted to share them
>
> widely; second, we need to support one another and
>
> can't do it without knowing what each other is doing
>
> (and skilled reporters are often very good at telling
>
> stories, which saves us time); three. in terms of
>
> sustainability amd grant writing, it is very helpful
>
> to know what's 'hot' in community gardening, and
>
> what's not (in terms of gardens that find themselves
>
> fighting to survive). I guess I also wanted to help
>
> sing the praises of successful gardens and gardeners.
>
>
>
> I confess that the delete key is also a factor - if
>
> you don't like it, delete it. But, I know, I myself
>
> don't always read lists with 'too much information'
>
> even when they are 'good for me' (for instance, on
>
> some nights, even the list covering events in my Peace
>
> Corps country, Togo).
>
>
>
> When I forwarded fewer articles, there wasn't so much
>
> of a problem - but admittedly recently there have been
>
> a lot of articles showing up. Since it takes more time
>
> for me to write or edit a digested version, and since
>
> this is all informal, I've just been sending them on
>
> as they appear.
>
>
>
> How about we do this - as a list community, let's
>
> decide if it makes sense to share these kinds of
>
> articles on this list. If the general consensus is no,
>
> end of story, I won't keep posting. If it is yes,
>
> maybe I can try to be more selective, and for most
>
> items just post the URL so folks can go visit it if
>
> they choose, sending full text only for items that
>
> really catch my eye (of course, you all are free to
>
> pass on articles too, as well as your questions and
>
> pearls of garden and community building wisdom).
>
>
>
> Since we have a fall garden season here in the
>
> Southern Piedmont (best time for all brassicas, root
>
> crops, lettuce...), I don't mind not sending articles.
>
> I can use all the time I can get out in the garden.
>
> But I don't mind doing it, either - what do we all
>
> think?
>
>
>
> Good gardening,
>
>
>
> Don Boekelheide
>
> Urban Ministry Center Community Garden
>
> Charlotte, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> -- __--__--
>
>
>
> Message: 2
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:32:01 -0400
>
> From: adam36055@aol.com
>
> Subject: Re: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
>
> To: dboekelheide@yahoo.com, community_garden@mallorn.com
>
>
>
> Lookit - Don,
>
>
>
> You've made the assumption that people who subscribe to a community garden
> list-serv are interested in reading about community gardens.
>
>
>
> Some are. Many would like to be. Many are lurkers and feel guilty when
> they
> don't read the content.
>
>
>
> There are some who have reading disabilities, got into gardening because
> they are "differently abled," and find having all this material to read on
> community gardening onorous. They would prefer pictures - so would I, but
> we don't have the money or resources to do this.
>
>
>
>
>
> Others, the complainers, the passive-aggressives, feel the need to whine
> about "all of that content," instead of clicking the "delete key," when
> the
> flow becomes too heavy, or they are tired, or want to watch "American
> Idol,"
> re-runs, or the "news flash," on the latest kiddie porn sex scandal.
>
>
>
> FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS: THIS ACGA LIST SERV IS A FREE SERVICE
> RUN BY VOLUNTEERS.
>
>
>
> IF YOU WERE TO COUNT NOSES, MOST OF THE SUBSCRIBERS ARE NOT ACGA MEMBERS.
>
>
>
> I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IF THE WHINERS, IN SPECIFIC, HAVE EVER BEEN DUES PAYING
> ACGA MEMBERS OR PLAN TO BE. THEY JUST LIKE TO COMPLAIN.
>
>
>
> The people who care about community gardens are really grateful for the
> content, to read about what is going on in places like our own, in places
> where we have never been. We are looking for new ways to build
> membership,
> deal with compost, deal with vandalism, create community, save our
> gardens,
> the best way to espalier pears in a small space - the whole works.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for what you do, Don,
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam Honigman
>
> NYC Community Gardener
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: dboekelheide@yahoo.com
>
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>
> Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:06 AM
>
> Subject: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, all,
>
>
>
> I'm sympathetic to recent comments that I'm posting
>
> too many articles about community gardening. This list
>
> didn't feature that many before (though some were
>
> posted from time to time, mostly from New York - no
>
> conspiracy, just some wide-awake people in NYC, and a
>
> lot of community gardens, over 1000 of them).
>
>
>
> I'm doubly sympathetic since I'm personally most
>
> interested in the technical growing and design
>
> questions of community gardening and gardening in
>
> general.
>
>
>
> That said, why have I been forwarding these stories?
>
> Well, I decided to pass along articles about community
>
> gardens around North America from the media for
>
> severa; reasons - first, other folks often have great
>
> ideas I haven't thought of and I wanted to share them
>
> widely; second, we need to support one another and
>
> can't do it without knowing what each other is doing
>
> (and skilled reporters are often very good at telling
>
> stories, which saves us time); three. in terms of
>
> sustainability amd grant writing, it is very helpful
>
> to know what's 'hot' in community gardening, and
>
> what's not (in terms of gardens that find themselves
>
> fighting to survive). I guess I also wanted to help
>
> sing the praises of successful gardens and gardeners.
>
>
>
> I confess that the delete key is also a factor - if
>
> you don't like it, delete it. But, I know, I myself
>
> don't always read lists with 'too much information'
>
> even when they are 'good for me' (for instance, on
>
> some nights, even the list covering events in my Peace
>
> Corps country, Togo).
>
>
>
> When I forwarded fewer articles, there wasn't so much
>
> of a problem - but admittedly recently there have been
>
> a lot of articles showing up. Since it takes more time
>
> for me to write or edit a digested version, and since
>
> this is all informal, I've just been sending them on
>
> as they appear.
>
>
>
> How about we do this - as a list community, let's
>
> decide if it makes sense to share these kinds of
>
> articles on this list. If the general consensus is no,
>
> end of story, I won't keep posting. If it is yes,
>
> maybe I can try to be more selective, and for most
>
> items just post the URL so folks can go visit it if
>
> they choose, sending full text only for items that
>
> really catch my eye (of course, you all are free to
>
> pass on articles too, as well as your questions and
>
> pearls of garden and community building wisdom).
>
>
>
> Since we have a fall garden season here in the
>
> Southern Piedmont (best time for all brassicas, root
>
> crops, lettuce...), I don't mind not sending articles.
>
> I can use all the time I can get out in the garden.
>
> But I don't mind doing it, either - what do we all
>
> think?
>
>
>
> Good gardening,
>
>
>
> Don Boekelheide
>
> Urban Ministry Center Community Garden
>
> Charlotte, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________
>
> The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of
> ACGA's
>
>
> services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find
> out
>
> how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org
>
>
>
>
>
> To post an e-mail to the list: community_garden@mallorn.com
>
>
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription:
> https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and
> IM. All on demand. Always Free.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- __--__--
>
>
>
> Message: 3
>
> From: "Patty Zehl" <pzehl@ksu.edu>
>
> To: "ACGA List Serve" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:27:07 -0500
>
> Subject: [cg] List serve is connection to ACGA community
>
>
>
> I'm really happy to receive the emails from Don, Adam and others. Please
>
> don't be discouraged at the few people who have chosen to drop off the
> list
>
> serve. Please, keep providing us with valuable information which I would
> not
>
> have the time or resources to discover for myself. Your emails have
> helped
>
> to connect me to fellow community gardeners around the country; whose
>
> concerns, trials, successes and failures have been informative, inspiring
>
> and instructional.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I appreciate your care in the preview provided by in the "subject" line.
> I
>
> can easily delete what I am not interested in.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patty Zehl
>
>
>
> Manhattan Community Garden
>
>
>
> Manhattan, KS
>
>
>
>
>
> -- __--__--
>
>
>
> Message: 4
>
> d=earthlink.net;
>
> b=V1qF+spDhYti4NtkuP9gLSi6BN6Up8xxnmu+HjJUK8xCux61ndhHpsA6KK/XSjXY;
>
> Reply-To: "Randa Shannon" <mildredsdaughters@earthlink.net>
>
> From: "Randa Shannon" <mildredsdaughters@earthlink.net>
>
> To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>
> Subject: Fw: [cg] mail frequency
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:38:07 -0400
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Randa Shannon
>
> To: chelseaxmolli@comcast.net
>
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:31 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [cg] mail frequency
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions...I am not very internet savvy, obviously. I
> am
>
> going to figure out how to set up folders as Bonnie suggested. My email
> has
>
> become overwhelming as business and urban ag. stuff expand, so this folder
>
> thing should be great. I also went to the list site and asked to receive
> the
>
> digest as Don suggested.
>
>
>
>
>
> I do recognize that the stream of references is of value to many and a
> work
> of
>
> service. I think what bothers me in part is the awareness of the constant
>
> battle for survival of community gardens everywhere. I was aware of this
>
> before joining ACGA, but now it seems like every garden is endangered.
> Way
>
> easier to bury my head in the compost pile. Or at least find a way to
> read
>
> the news when I am ready.
>
>
>
> As for american idol and kiddy porn, most people I know find gardening
> in
>
> competition with jobs that pay rent and buy groceries or with the time and
>
> effort to run a household with kids and elders..
>
>
>
> Maybe you all know each other and the insult level of discourse is
> accepted
> as
>
> humorous and any comment on process is whining. Is Adam the
> "moderator".?.I
>
> dunno....I'm a stranger here myself.
>
>
>
> Thanks again for the positive direction from most.
>
> Randa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: chelseaxmolli@comcast.net
>
> To: Randa Shannon
>
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:22 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [cg] mail frequency
>
>
>
>
>
> Randa,
>
> I can understand this sentiment - although my interests differ.
>
>
>
> My solution is to use my email program to sort incoming mail into folders
>
> based on the [cg] in the subject line. All mail from this list goes into
> its
>
> own folder. When I have time, I scan through the subject lines of the
> emails
>
> in this folder with my finger posed over the delete key. Finally, I come
> back
>
> to read what is of potential interest to me. I miss some emails that
> change
>
> topics when the sender does not change the subject line - but then I'd
> miss
>
> all emails if I unsubscribed. Also, I find this method less tedious than
>
> scanning through a digest list; and, for me, it's more amenable to the
>
> external interruptions that are more frequent in my life than the number
> of
>
> emails from this list.
>
>
>
> Bonnie
>
> Arlington, TX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 20, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Randa Shannon wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Perhaps a digest listing news articles /sources re community gardening
>
> which you find of interest would serve some members better than 7 or 8
>
> seperate emails....I personally find that a little much and have
> considered
>
> unsubscribing. I am more interested in the practical exchange of
> information.
>
> The dialogue about paths is typical of what I want and that is a day to
> day
>
> conversation The politics of gardens is of interest but I don't want every
>
> article about every garden mailed to me.
>
>
>
> Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
> matter."
>
> Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- __--__--
>
>
>
> Message: 5
>
> From: Grow19@aol.com
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:56:27 EDT
>
> Subject: Re: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
>
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>
>
>
> keep up the news as well as the dialogue (forum). both are valuable and
>
> many of us would otherwise never see the news stories. learn to be easy
> with
>
> the delete key if messages don't interest.
>
> judy tiger, washington dc
>
>
>
>
>
> -- __--__--
>
>
>
> Message: 6
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:57:12 -0400
>
> From: "Bailey, Sarah" <sarah.bailey@uconn.edu>
>
> To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>
> Subject: [cg] re: List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
>
>
>
> Don -
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I, for one, find the news articles interesting, helpful and informative.
>
> As noted, I can always hit the delete button.... But the articles give
>
> me a sense of what's happening around the country (and world, on
>
> occasion!) in the realm of community gardening, which I find as
>
> important and useful as the more practical and focused discussions on
>
> specific topics within community gardening. Please, keep up the good
>
> work!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sarah Bailey
>
>
>
> Master Gardener Program Coordinator
>
>
>
> Hartford County, CT
>
>
>
>
>
> -- __--__--
>
>
>
> Message: 7
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:20:13 -0400
>
> From: adam36055@aol.com
>
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>
> Subject: [cg] Fwd: Sharing other garden news - thx for keep 'em coming
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: DanielsB@stcsc.edu
>
> To: dboekelheide@yahoo.com
>
> Cc: adam36055@aol.com
>
> Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:16 AM
>
> Subject: RE: Sharing other garden news - thx for keep 'em coming
>
>
>
>
>
> Don: Adam, as always, is on target. I join his ranks in supporting
>
> your sharing news from other gardens. I particularly appreciate your
>
> sending the whole article rather than the URL. I can scan every
>
> article, flag those that I need, file the others to search later. If
>
> you send URLs, it slows down my perusing and encumbers later searches.
>
> Thank you, and keep on sending the whole news (~: B
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
>
> [community_garden-admin@mallorn.com] On Behalf Of
>
> adam36055@aol.com
>
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:32 AM
>
> To: dboekelheide@yahoo.com; community_garden@mallorn.com
>
> Subject: Re: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
>
>
>
> Lookit - Don,
>
>
>
> You've made the assumption that people who subscribe to a community
>
> garden list-serv are interested in reading about community gardens.
>
>
>
> Some are. Many would like to be. Many are lurkers and feel guilty when
>
> they don't read the content.
>
>
>
> There are some who have reading disabilities, got into gardening because
>
> they are "differently abled," and find having all this material to read
>
> on community gardening onorous. They would prefer pictures - so would
>
> I, but we don't have the money or resources to do this.
>
>
>
>
>
> Others, the complainers, the passive-aggressives, feel the need to whine
>
> about "all of that content," instead of clicking the "delete key," when
>
> the flow becomes too heavy, or they are tired, or want to watch
>
> "American Idol," re-runs, or the "news flash," on the latest kiddie porn
>
> sex scandal.
>
>
>
> FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS: THIS ACGA LIST SERV IS A FREE
>
> SERVICE RUN BY VOLUNTEERS.
>
>
>
> IF YOU WERE TO COUNT NOSES, MOST OF THE SUBSCRIBERS ARE NOT ACGA
>
> MEMBERS.
>
>
>
> I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IF THE WHINERS, IN SPECIFIC, HAVE EVER BEEN DUES
>
> PAYING ACGA MEMBERS OR PLAN TO BE. THEY JUST LIKE TO COMPLAIN.
>
>
>
> The people who care about community gardens are really grateful for the
>
> content, to read about what is going on in places like our own, in
>
> places where we have never been. We are looking for new ways to build
>
> membership, deal with compost, deal with vandalism, create community,
>
> save our gardens, the best way to espalier pears in a small space - the
>
> whole works.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for what you do, Don,
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam Honigman
>
> NYC Community Gardener
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: dboekelheide@yahoo.com
>
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>
> Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:06 AM
>
> Subject: [cg] List as 'news service' as well as 'forum'
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, all,
>
>
>
> I'm sympathetic to recent comments that I'm posting
>
> too many articles about community gardening. This list
>
> didn't feature that many before (though some were
>
> posted from time to time, mostly from New York - no
>
> conspiracy, just some wide-awake people in NYC, and a
>
> lot of community gardens, over 1000 of them).
>
>
>
> I'm doubly sympathetic since I'm personally most
>
> interested in the technical growing and design
>
> questions of community gardening and gardening in
>
> general.
>
>
>
> That said, why have I been forwarding these stories?
>
> Well, I decided to pass along articles about community
>
> gardens around North America from the media for
>
> severa; reasons - first, other folks often have great
>
> ideas I haven't thought of and I wanted to share them
>
> widely; second, we need to support one another and
>
> can't do it without knowing what each other is doing
>
> (and skilled reporters are often very good at telling
>
> stories, which saves us time); three. in terms of
>
> sustainability amd grant writing, it is very helpful
>
> to know what's 'hot' in community gardening, and
>
> what's not (in terms of gardens that find themselves
>
> fighting to survive). I guess I also wanted to help
>
> sing the praises of successful gardens and gardeners.
>
>
>
> I confess that the delete key is also a factor - if
>
> you don't like it, delete it. But, I know, I myself
>
> don't always read lists with 'too much information'
>
> even when they are 'good for me' (for instance, on
>
> some nights, even the list covering events in my Peace
>
> Corps country, Togo).
>
>
>
> When I forwarded fewer articles, there wasn't so much
>
> of a problem - but admittedly recently there have been
>
> a lot of articles showing up. Since it takes more time
>
> for me to write or edit a digested version, and since
>
> this is all informal, I've just been sending them on
>
> as they appear.
>
>
>
> How about we do this - as a list community, let's
>
> decide if it makes sense to share these kinds of
>
> articles on this list. If the general consensus is no,
>
> end of story, I won't keep posting. If it is yes,
>
> maybe I can try to be more selective, and for most
>
> items just post the URL so folks can go visit it if
>
> they choose, sending full text only for items that
>
> really catch my eye (of course, you all are free to
>
> pass on articles too, as well as your questions and
>
> pearls of garden and community building wisdom).
>
>
>
> Since we have a fall garden season here in the
>
> Southern Piedmont (best time for all brassicas, root
>
> crops, lettuce...), I don't mind not sending articles.
>
> I can use all the time I can get out in the garden.
>
> But I don't mind doing it, either - what do we all
>
> think?
>
>
>
> Good gardening,
>
>
>
> Don Boekelheide
>
> Urban Ministry Center Community Garden
>
> Charlotte, NC
>
>
>
>
>
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