RE: (Public.Spaces) American Community Gardening Association

**"Eliza Fournier" E*@chicagobotanic.org**

Adam,

To eliminate any confusion that may have arisen from my "well-intentioned" email, we have reached out to the membership of ACGA, GreenNet and all of our community gardeners before I emailed this to this group.  I apologize profusely if you were not contacted, and I appreciate your interest...please feel free to contact me directly for more information on how you can participate.  

I realize that the Project for Public Spaces is not a community gardening organization.  However, as a recent member of the public spaces list-serve, I felt that the missions of community gardening and this organization are integrally related.  As you have proven by your response, many people who are involved in public spaces are also involved in issues related to community gardening.  

If nothing else, I am glad this message reached you so that members of your organization can participate.  Hopefully there are others on this listserve in your same position.

Sincerely,

Eliza

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam36055@aol.com [A*@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:30 AM
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Cc: Eliza Fournier
Subject: Fwd: (Public.Spaces) American Community Gardening Association

Friends,

Sometimes the cart comes before the horse. And it happens good naturedly and 
with the best of intentions...

Still, I find it confusing that this representative of Chicago Botanic garden 
has reached out to the Project for  Public Spaces  list serve before it 
reached out to our membership for speakers and papers at the ACGA's national 
convention. 

While the Project for Public Spaces does remarkable work in educating the 
public on public space issues ( I am an active participant on that listserve) 
and are  in the forefront of "urban sprawl" and public space issues, they are 
not a community gardening organization.  In fact, many of the participants 
have no idea of what a community garden is... While I believe that we can all 
learn from zoning, landscape architects and public space experts, this 
invitation is a prime example of  "putting the cart ahead of the horse", the 
horse being community gardeners.

As a community gardener who looks to the Chicago Botanic garden for 
leadership in enabled gardening for limited movement seniors and the 
wheelchair bound as well as guidance in rooftop gardening - Chicago Botanic 
is a national leader  -  I'm sure that this will shake out.  Would some 
Chicago community gardener please contact the undoubtedly well meaning writer 
of the attached message, please?  

Fraternally,
Adam Honigman
Volunteer
Clinton Community Garden
 <A HREF="http://www.clintoncommunitygarden.org/";>Clinton Community Garden</A>

We all often set the cart in front 

In a message dated 2/4/03 5:55:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
efournier@chicagobotanic.org writes:

<< Subj:     (Public.Spaces) American Community Gardening Association
 Date:  2/4/03 5:55:39 PM Eastern Standard Time
 From:  efournier@chicagobotanic.org
 Reply-to:  public.spaces@topica.com
 To:    public.spaces@topica.com (Public Spaces)

 All,

 Thought someone might be interested in presenting at this conference, or
 at least attending it. More about the organization and the conference is
 listed at www.communitygarden.org.

 http://www.communitygarden.org/conf/2003callforpapers.html  This is the
 call for papers...if you have any questions, feel free to email me.

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 www.pps.org / www.urbanparks.pps.org

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