Re: Theft 101
- Subject: Re: [cg] Theft 101
- From: "Diana Yuen" <email@example.com>
- Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:09:03 -0700
I've been a member of a moderate sized community garden in Seattle for a
little over a year now. My garden faces a busy arterial, both in pedestrian
and vehicle traffic. This side is fenced off with a 8-foot (?) tall
chain-link fence. The garden is accessible by entering the property of the
community center on which the garden resides. The remaining perimeter is
surrounded by a shorter, more decorative wooden fencing.
We and many of the other gardens in the P-Patch program have experienced
some degree of theft. I can only attest to theft I have experienced or heard
of personally. I've had a number of random items stolen - a 20 lb squash, a
wooden board, and some fancy metal stakes - this is surprisingly minimal
considering how much traffic travels through this area. Others at my garden
have also had stakes, decorative nicknacks, and food items stolen on
Generally, it seems that theft occurs b/c there's an opportunity - someone
is walking by, sees something they want and takes it. I don't think it's
rampant enough to say that there are theives who come by regularly. It's
also hard to say why it is that people take what they take, and hence find
ways to combat it.
Some of the ways we have attempted to curb theft and vandalism have been to
post signs and keep community tools in locked sheds. Gardeners are
encouraged not to place anything of value in their plots and to arrange
pathways such that it's difficult to enter a plot. Additionally, I like to
grow theft-prone plants behind less desirable or recognizable plants so that
they are obscured from view, and grow less recognizable varieties of common
It's always disappointing to find that something has been stolen. I hope you
find a way to tackle the theft your garden has been experiencing!
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From: jay sokolovsky <firstname.lastname@example.org>
CC: email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: [cg] Theft 101
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:49:51 -0400
It would be interesting to hear from gardeners in places like Seattle where
many of the community gardens have no locked fences. What are the factors
that allows these places to get away with this.
People steal. Don't feel particularly bad that it's happening in a garden
- in the UK, for example, plant & tool theft are huge, if you believe the
press reports, largely because gardening is so popular and people will buy
up the swag, or plant a looted perennial that they've bought hot because
Yes, fences are essential. When we started the Clinton Community Garden in
the heart of Hells Kitchen in 1979, we walked in on a Beirut-like urban
moonscape with rubble, rusted cars, expended bullets and a dead junkie
drawing flies. What we saved, we fenced, watched - kinda easy because there
are tenements all around the garden, and worked to keep secure.
We still have theft - just last week someone stole some new patio chairs
the same day they were donated, fer chrissakes, but we have managed to
preserve our tools and stuff by following some basic procedures.
1) Fence the garden completely around it's perimeter if you don't have
secure brick walls at least on a few sides.
2) Have a few rules but clear, and post the signage throughout the garden
and up front. Let it be known among the garden rank-and-file that there
have been thefts, they hurt the garden, and you'd really appreciate it if
they have any ideas about how to make the garden more secure. And listen to
what people say. And say that, "Heck, garden shears come home in my pocket
too. But we have to remember to bring them back."
The idea is to get folks conscious and aware, without getting them
paranoid. It's just learning to be being careful with garden property.
3) Let it be known to your neighbors that there have been thefts and let
local law enforcement know about it too - The line, " And we're raising
food for seniors, the homeless, etc.., " gets the idea across that there is
some significance to what is being stolen. You're on the cop's beat, they
should come by and say, "hi."
4) At night time, or when there are no gardeners in the gardener lock it.
I'm an 8 foot fence fan - it takes effort to climb and eight foot fence and
climbing one takes some effort and is pretty obvious.
5) At the Clinton Community Garden, we have a shed for tools, that is in
the back locked garden area. There is an unlocked lean-to attached to the
shed with the more replacable tools, and locked areas in the main shed
where we keep beekeeping equipment, the chipper shredder and the more
expensive tools. Access to these areas are on a "need to use" basis and is
controlled by key.
6) All garden tools are marked with a hideous yellow paint, and have the
legend, "Clinton Community Garden," permanently marked on them." There is
no question that they are our tools.
7) Most imporantly, you have to foster a sense of real ownership of the
garden in everyone who uses it - that the land, the tools, the plants are
all owned in common and that theft really is an assault on everyone.
I'm sorry that the wands, gazing balls, a decorations have been stolen -
and that someone is enjoying them in private, or has tried to sell them.
You're not going to be able to stop theft completely, but by keeping stuff
secure, marking tools and garden property, and creating a sense of
ownership in all of your gardeners and partners, then you have a chance at
keeping your garden from "walking away."
Clinton Community Garden <http://www.clintoncommunitygarden.org/>
We're just starting to get theft. Small stuff -
watering wands, gazing balls and other garden
decorations, that kind of thing. No tools or hoses
taken - yet. We are partly fenced (a company has
offered to make us a nice 'real' fence, but there's
not a clear time frame), the site is on a busy road in
a farmer's field, surrounded by development but with
no residence close.
Anyone experienced something similar? Any ideas about
who the culprits might be, given the pattern of theft?
If we don't fence, what can we do? If we do get a
fence, any recommendation on type? Key protocols?
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