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Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #1348 - 7 msgs

  • Subject: [cg] Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #1348 - 7 msgs
  • From: "alan singer" singerlawton@earthlink.net
  • Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:38:09 -0500

In response to Paul Newfield's thoughts about gardening for peace I say 
"YES". Gardening is life; it is nurturing health, abundance, sharing,
celebrates our shared human need for nourishment of body and spirit; it is a
gentle stance for the value we place on beauty, nature and life.
On September 11th, 2001, I watched the towers burn on my way down the street
to begin a garden in Jersey City, NJ. Yes, that was the morning I began a
garden. I didn't get too far before the buildings started falling and the
feelings of danger and disaster sent me home to pray. But I will never
forget how proud I was that I was going to make a garden in the landfill
soil just a mile away as the planes were crashing into those buildings. In
that moment, my garden was a prayer and a pledge for my beliefs. The beliefs
and actions that have brought these heartbreaking times into form can be
transformed by people refusing to give into fear and get out there and build
gardens with our rainbow of humanity-neighbors. Put away your plastic and
duct tape and get out there and exchange some seeds with someone you don't
know, maybe speak a different language than. Gardens bring us together and
uplift us. Lord knows we can all use that today! Wishing you an excellent
season.
Sincerely, Cynthia Lawton-Singer

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>From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
>To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>Subject: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #1348 - 7 msgs
>Date: Wed, Mar 5, 2003, 1:00 PM
>

>
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> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. gardeners vies about things other than gardening (alan singer)
>   2. Learning to love the delete key (Alliums)
>   3. Trenton, NJ Community Garden Coordinator Position Available (Megan Ruf)
>   4. On Topic - Community Gardening in Tough Times (Greg Lecker)
>   5. Re: Learning to love the delete key (Libby J. Goldstein)
>   6. Manifesting Beauty (John Verin)
>   7. RE: Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #1345 - 9 msgs (John Verin)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 12:57:05 -0500
> From: "alan singer" <singerlawton@earthlink.net>
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] gardeners vies about things other than gardening
>
> I agree that a separate place for reading other gardener's views of
> non-gardening issues could be a respectful and interesting solution. That
> would make it an option that is open for those who wish to visit and
> contribute.
> Cynthia Lawton-Singer
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:24:36 -0500
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> From: Alliums <garlicgrower@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [cg] Learning to love the delete key
>
> Hi, Folks!
>
> The bleeding of "on-topic" item into "off-topic" items is a fairly common
> phenomenon on Internet mailing list -- and even more common on the
> agriculture/gardening lists.
>
> As this list is quiet compared to the major small-farming/sustaintable ag
> lists, it might be well to take a page from them and when you believe that
> topics are listing (pun! ;-D) off-topic, to simply delete the post you
> believe is off topic and then immediately raise a query that you believe is
> *on* topic.
>
> As gardening/ag folks tend to adore the sounds of their own keyboards
> clacking, the list will immediately be full of replies that will not on be
> "on-topic," but might actually be useful in your own garden!  The
> "off-topic" item will be lost in the shuffle.
>
> The joy of the Internet is that you can delete anything that comes into
> your Inbox that you don't want to read and no one will be offended.  Raise
> what you do want to talk about and there won't be time to deal with "side
> issues".
>
> In that spirit, has anyone successful raised chickpeas outside of the
> Southwest?  Seeds of Change just sent our community garden packets and
> *packets* of the stuff and I haven't a clue what to do with them.
>
> Dorene Pasekoff, Coordinator
> St. John's United Church of Christ Organic Community Garden
>
> A mission of
> St. John's United Church of Christ, 315 Gay Street, Phoenixville, PA  19460
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: Megan Ruf <mruf@isles.org>
> To: "'community_garden@mallorn.com'" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:59:12 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [cg] Trenton, NJ Community Garden Coordinator Position Available
>
>
> Position Available:
>
> COMMUNITY GARDENING COORDINATOR
>
> Isles Inc. and non-profit community development and environmental
> organization located in Trenton, New Jersey seeks a full time Community
> Garden Coordinator.
> Responsibilities include assisting Program Manager in all aspects of
> implementing community gardening program.  Responsibilities include
> recruitment of new gardeners and start-up of new garden sites; collaboration
> with community gardeners to help plan new gardens, seasonal planting,
> maintain and harvest city garden sites; coordination of site work throughout
> growing season; supervision of volunteers and Youthbuild program
> participants; teaching basic concepts of horticulture to youth; assistance
> with planning special events such as Midsummer Garden Tour, Harvest dinner,
> and City plant Sale.
>
> Job Requirements:
> Knowledge and experience of gardening
> Strength to load, unload and carry tools and other gardening materials
> Supervisory experience, especially with young people, a plus
> Valid driving license
>
> Send resume by fax to MHR, Isles, 609 393-9513 or email mruf@isles.org
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Greg Lecker" <glecker@michaudcooley.com>
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:35:58 -0600
> Subject: [cg] On Topic - Community Gardening in Tough Times
>
> Day to day, I find myself torn on the war issue; and I'm torn even as to
> whether I want to think about it that day.  If on any given day, I don't
> want to read about the specific topic (treated wood, war, or worms), I
> quickly and painlessly delete messages after reading the Subject or
> the first few lines.  Other days, I will more thoughtfully consider the
> writers' sentiments and note the information presented.  I do value the
> opportunity to consider as many different viewpoints as possible.
>
> On one hand, I want to oppose war not fully supported by the United
> Nations and Europe; a war that will have wide-reaching ramifications
> to the Kurds, the Arab world, the Iraq people, Turkey, and Israel.  On
> the other hand, I want to support our troops and my reservist brother
> (thankfully not called to active duty abroad yet) who commit
> themselves in service to our country in a way that I cannot.
>
> Greg Lecker
> Bryn Mawr Garden Club
> Minneapolis, MN
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:39:20 -0500
> To: Alliums <garlicgrower@earthlink.net>
> From: "Libby J. Goldstein" <libby@igc.org>
> Subject: Re: [cg] Learning to love the delete key
> Cc: community_garden@mallorn.com
>
> Yo Doreen,
>
> I grew them years ago. The variety that I grew was more cold
> resistant than most. I got it from Johnny's, but they stoped carrying
> it.
>
> Anyway, one needs to start them in warm soil (Have you seen any soil
> yet? I haven't.): I think mid May to early July, depending on what
> else you're growing. You could plant them after lettuce or spinach.
> However, one only gets one or two beans per pod; so you might just
> want to cook most of the ones you got. Great for hummus.
>
> They are low-growing, have ferny leaves and pretty white flowers. I
> grew mine as an edging to one of my large beds at S/QV. I think I
> planted them about 1-2" apart and thinned them to about 4", but I
> don't really remember, and you know how I crowd stuff.
>
> Has your snow melted off yet? I've still got places in the back yard
> with almost a foot left.
>
> Libby
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
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> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:58:09 -0500
> From: "John Verin" <jverin@Pennhort.org>
> To: "Neufeld" <apneufeld@uniserve.com>, <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Subject: [cg] Manifesting Beauty
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> People everywhere are way stressed out about all the madness in the =
> world.
> Hold open talking circles in your gardens. Everyone gets a few minutes =
> to speak of the fears in their hearts and minds, no interruptions and no =
> feed back. Just pure open hearted listening for everyone, one person at =
> a time.
> =20
> Then go back around the circle and in the same format everyone shares =
> what beauty is in their lives or that they see in the world, that which =
> they are grateful for.
> =20
> Add to this singing, or a pot luck, praying for peace with all your =
> hands on the soil to send the prayer through the whole planet... =
> CELEBRATE.
> =20
> The systems of madness want us afraid, angry, feeling helpless. The more =
> we celebrate together what it good, the more good manifests. It's really =
> that simple to change the world. With unwavering focus keep your mind on =
> the beauty, with ceaseless determination that the world of peace and joy =
> that you want is, right now, in the process of coming to be. Not later, =
> now.
> =20
> Be the change you wish to see in the world, said Gandhi. So that means, =
> be peaceful, now! Be grateful, now! Be unconditionally loving, now! Be =
> free of violence, now!
> =20
> If not now, when? If not you, whom?
> =20
> CELEBRATE EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME!
> =20
> In humble, joyful solidarity,
> Paco
>
> Paco Verin=20
> Citywide Project Coordinator - Philadelphia Green=20
> The Pennsylvania Horticultural Society=20
> 100 N. 20th St.=20
> Philadelphia, PA  19103=20
> 215-988-8885=20
> http://www.pennsylvaniahorticulturalsociety.org =
> <http://www.pennsylvaniahorticulturalsociety.org/> =20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neufeld [mailto:apneufeld@uniserve.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 7:04 PM
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] (no subject)
>
>
> I appreciate the very thoughtful comments made by Paco connecting =
> gardening and politics. =20
> =20
> The other night I lay awake and tried to sleep but found myself =
> disturbed by the massive tragedy that seems about to be unleashed upon =
> the already suffering people of Iraq.  I found myself searching for a =
> way to respond, personally to Violence in the world, not only in Iraq, =
> but also in so many other places (as Melanie pointed out).  I have =
> decided that I will create (or rather be a catalyst in the creation of) =
> a "Peace Garden" - not the fancy work of a landscaper, but a subversive, =
> organic, communal effort, an attempt to create a space teeming with life =
> and beauty in the face of the death and violence that is happening in =
> Iraq and around the world.
> =20
> If this vision inspires you, I'd invite you to garden for peace wherever =
> you are!  If you have suggestion for me, I'd love to hear them.  I'll =
> send out an update and let you know how this early morning mad-cap idea =
> progresses.
> =20
> Paul Neufeld
> Vancouver, BC
> Canada
>
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> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>Hold=20
> open talking circles in your gardens. Everyone gets a few minutes to =
> speak of=20
> the fears in their hearts and minds, no interruptions and no feed back. =
> Just=20
> pure open hearted listening for everyone, one person at a=20
> time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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> size=3D2>Then=20
> go back around the circle and in the same format everyone shares what =
> beauty is=20
> in their lives or that they see in the world, that which they are =
> grateful=20
> for.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>Add to=20
> this singing, or a pot luck, praying for peace with all your hands on =
> the soil=20
> to send the prayer through the whole planet... =
> CELEBRATE.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>The=20
> systems of madness want us afraid, angry, feeling helpless. The more we=20
> celebrate together what it good, the more good manifests. It's really =
> that=20
> simple to change the world. With unwavering focus keep your mind on the =
> beauty,=20
> with ceaseless determination that the world of peace and joy that you =
> want is,=20
> right now, in the process of coming to be. Not later, =
> now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>Be the=20
> change you wish to see in the world, said Gandhi. So that means, be =
> peaceful,=20
> now! Be grateful, now! Be unconditionally loving, now! Be free of =
> violence,=20
> now!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>If not=20
> now, when? If not you, whom?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
>
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
>
> size=3D2>CELEBRATE EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
>
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>In=20
> humble, joyful solidarity,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D334394916-05032003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
>
> size=3D2>Paco</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <P><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Paco Verin</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> face=3DVerdana=20
> size=3D2>Citywide Project Coordinator - Philadelphia Green</FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> face=3DVerdana size=3D2>The Pennsylvania Horticultural Society</FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> face=3DVerdana size=3D2>100 N. 20th St.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
> size=3D2>Philadelphia, PA&nbsp; 19103</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
> size=3D2>215-988-8885</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><A =
> target=3D_blank=20
> href=3D"http://www.pennsylvaniahorticulturalsociety.org/";>http://www.penn=
> sylvaniahorticulturalsociety.org</A>=20
> </FONT></P>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
> face=3DTahoma=20
>   size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Neufeld=20
>   [mailto:apneufeld@uniserve.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 02, 2003 =
> 7:04=20
>   PM<BR><B>To:</B> community_garden@mallorn.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [cg] =
> (no=20
>   subject)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I appreciate the very thoughtful =
> comments made by=20
>   Paco connecting gardening and politics.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other night I lay awake and tried =
> to sleep=20
>   but found myself disturbed by the massive tragedy that seems about to =
> be=20
>   unleashed upon the already suffering people of Iraq.&nbsp; I found =
> myself=20
>   searching for a way to respond, personally to Violence in the world, =
> not only=20
>   in Iraq, but also in so many other places (as Melanie pointed =
> out).&nbsp; I=20
>   have decided that I will create (or rather be a catalyst in the =
> creation of) a=20
>   "Peace Garden" - not&nbsp;the fancy work of a landscaper, but a =
> subversive,=20
>   organic, communal effort, an attempt to create a space teeming with =
> life and=20
>   beauty in the face of the death and violence that is happening in Iraq =
> and=20
>   around the world.</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If this vision inspires you, I'd =
> invite you to=20
>   garden for peace wherever you are!&nbsp; If you have suggestion for =
> me, I'd=20
>   love to hear them.&nbsp; I'll send out an update and let you know how =
> this=20
>   early morning mad-cap idea progresses.</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paul Neufeld</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vancouver, BC</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
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> Message: 7
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: RE: [cg] Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #1345 - 9 msgs
> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:02:02 -0500
> From: "John Verin" <jverin@Pennhort.org>
> To: "Drew Cannon" <drahhh@hotmail.com>, <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>
> No thanks.
> I prefer the stew.
>
> Paco Verin
> Citywide Project Coordinator - Philadelphia Green
> The Pennsylvania Horticultural Society
> 100 N. 20th St.
> Philadelphia, PA  19103
> 215-988-8885
> http://www.pennsylvaniahorticulturalsociety.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drew Cannon [mailto:drahhh@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:49 PM
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #1345 - 9 msgs
>
>
> This is an open message to the list administrator and all its members.  I've
> been reading the recent ongoing discussion about the appropriateness of
> non-community gardening related topics in this forum.
>
> Other lists have effectively dealt with this issue by opening another forum
> specifically for off-topic subjects.  I believe that this option offers a
> respectful solution to the entire membership.  What do you think?
>
> -Drew Cannon
>
>
>
>
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