Re: artificial trees

Donna,
The photos are wonderful!

.  Thanks so much.
----- Original Message -----Grace 
From: "Jo Wilson" <jowilson1@hotmail.com>
To: <ferns@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees


> Donna:  I would love to see more images!  Jo Wilson
> 
> >From: "Donna McGraw" >Reply-To: ferns@hort.net >To: >Subject: Re:
> [ferns] artificial trees >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:59:28 -0500 > >My
> wonderful husband figured out a way for you to see the pictures. Go to
> >http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/mmcgraw74 >and click on the Fairchild
> folder. >Click on a thumbnail to enlarge the picture (and again to make
> it even >larger) > >I have more pictures if anyone wants to see them. If
> you have any >questions, I'll try to answer them. > >Donna > > >-----
> Original Message ----- >From: "Donna McGraw" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, July
> 29, 2003 4:26 PM >Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees > > > > How can I
> show the pictures to the group???? > > > > Donna > > ----- Original
> Message ----- > > From: "Keith Rogers" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July
> 29, 2003 12:58 AM > > Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees > > > > > > >
> Hi Donna > > > > > > 'Unfortunately' Ferns Hort don't have images. > > >
> > > > Keith > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Donna
> McGraw" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:45 PM > > >
> Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees > > > > > > > > > > I just had to
> wade in on this topic - My husband (Monty) and I took > > these > > > >
> pictures at the Fairchild Botanical Gardens in Miami while we were at > >
> the > > > > Tropical Fern and Exotic Plant Show and Sale that took place
> the first > > > > weekend in June. We were amazed at the construction -
> these "tree > > trunks" > > > > are made of PVC covered with cork bark.
> The bark was attached with > > screws > > > > in this case - it's shown
> in one of the pictures where we show the end > > of > > > > one of the
> "limbs" This was absolutely amazing. We're going to try >it > > in > > >
> > our new conservatory, if we can find a source for the cork bark that >
> > won't > > > > break the bank. I apologize for attaching so many
> pictures (I have >more > > > if > > > > anyone wants a private viewing
> :-)) I was just trying to show as much > > of > > > > the display as
> possible. I'm sorry, I don't know how to make the > > pictures > > > >
> smaller. > > > > > > > > Hope you enjoy, > > > > Donna McGraw > > > >
> Houston > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "betty" > > >
> > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re:
> [ferns] artificial trees > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Keith, > > > > >
> Sadly, I could find no pics on their site, which is really too > > >
> bad!!! > > > > > > > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > > > Keith Rogers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Betty > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't suppose
> there is any images of it > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > -----
> Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "betty" > > > > > > To: > > > >
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:32 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ferns]
> artificial trees > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi to all, > > > > > > > At
> Chicago they mused everything from wire and fishing line >to > > > hot >
> > > > > > glue gun > > > > > > > and foam insulation, which is quite
> sticky, and would fill >spaces > > > and > > > > > > provide a > > > > >
> > > good adhesion for plant substrates, and can be covered with > >
> sphagmun > > > > which > > > > > > it > > > > > > > will hold as well.
> mBefore mthe plants cover the orange of the > > > foam, > > > > it > > >
> > > > looks > > > > > > > like a fungus peaking out! (It is formaldehyde
> based, and not > > good > > > > inside > > > > > > untill > > > > > > >
> it has cured for a while.) Whatever works elsewhere will work >on > > >
> the > > > > PVC > > > > > > base. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers,
> Betty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kerogers@iprimus.com.au wrote: > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Wim and others > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> have also used wire netting made into a 4 in round and >filled > > > with
> > > > > > > sphagnum > > > > > > > > moss or old willow roots to grow
> epiphytes. This wire only > > lasts > > > a > > > > few > > > > > >
> years, > > > > > > > > stainless would be better, but expensive. > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To use PVC as a strengthen tube, it would need to
> have some > > method > > > > to > > > > > > hold > > > > > > > > the
> sphagnum to the pipe. Perhaps wire or stainless netting > > would > > > >
> do > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Yes the PVC I mentioned is used here to grow strawberries and > > > would
> > > > > be > > > > > > useful > > > > > > > > for small ferns too. > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--
> Original Message -- > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [ferns] artificial
> trees > > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:17:54 +0200 > > > > > >
> > > >From: "Winter, Wim de" > > > > > > > > >To: > > > > > > > >
> >Reply-To: ferns@hort.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >Keith, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The result of what you
> describe is much like the terracotta > > > > earthenware > > > > > > > >
> dovecots > > > > > > > > >that are commercially sold here as "strawberry
> pots" (see for > > > > shape, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > >apparently
> different material > > > > http://www.potvis.org/Gallery_2_4.html). > > >
> > > > You > > > > > > > > >remind me that I still wanted to try them for
> fern use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The difference with the
> proposed method is that the plants >only > > > can > > > > > > crop > > >
> > > > > > >out from your predifined cups, at least, I suppose the won't >
> > grow > > > > over > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >pvc outside. Also,
> the mortar/peat outside might look more > > > > attractive > > > > > >
> even > > > > > > > > >when not overgrown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >Wim0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >
> > > > > > > >From: Keith Rogers [k*@iprimus.com.au] > > > >
> > > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 09:13 > > > > > > > > >To:
> ferns@hort.net > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Wim > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Forget Mortar, it appears not to be a concrete
> suggestion!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Use 4 in or 6in PVC Sewer
> pipe for an erect pipe perhaps 3 or >4 > > > ft > > > > > > long. > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You could just do a series of cuts in the pipe
> 3 or 4 inches > > long > > > > with > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >
> >hacksaw around the circumference in varying positions. > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Warm it up bending the upper in and the lower out, this
> forms >a > > > say > > > > > > half > > > > > > > > >cup > > > > > > > >
> >shape. > > > > > > > > >The problem is if you put the pipe in the oven
> to real hot, >the > > > lot > > > > > > becomes > > > > > > > > >pliable.
> > > > > > > > > >Heating with a blow torch, burns. > > > > > > > >
> >Perhaps a hair drier would work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >Clean up the rough edges with a file and sandpaper. > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Get a PVC cap, add a larger base for support, cut drain
> holes > > in > > > it > > > > and > > > > > > > > glue > > > > > > > >
> >onto bottom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The contents is easy,
> use sphagnum moss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Kindest regards > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Keith Rogers > > > > > > > > >Mannum South
> Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Keith's Fern Page is at > >
> > > > > > > >www.lm.net.au/~kerogers/ > > > > > > > > >Supporting the
> Fern Society of South Australia on > > > > > > > >
> >www.chariot.net.au/~saufern/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----
> Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > >From: "Winter, Wim de" > > > > >
> > > > >To: > > > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:12 AM > > > >
> > > > > >Subject: [ferns] artificial trees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> A colleage of mine told me something about
> constructing > > > > artificial > > > > > > trees > > > > > > > > >for
> epiphyte growth. However, he did not know any details. > > Maybe > > > >
> some > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > >you > > > > > > > > >do? > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> It starts with a pvc drainpipe. This is
> enveloped with a > > > mixture > > > > of > > > > > > mortar > > > > > >
> > > >and peat (1:2 ?). Litthe holes in the pipe allow water from >the > >
> > > pipe's > > > > > > > > >interior to moisten the outside substratum.
> Cups could be > > shaped > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > >mortar to
> allow for easier planting. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> It's an
> intriguing idea, but imagining to construct it, > > > questions > > > > >
> > arise: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> - whats the size of the
> holes? > > > > > > > > >> - is the pipe topped of with water, so should
> it be water > > tight > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >bottom
> end? > > > > > > > > >> - is the pipe filled up with any kind of spongy
> matter? > > > > > > > > >> - is 1:2 the correct mortar:peat rate? > > > >
> > > > > >> - isn't the mortar to alkaline for epiphytic species? > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Any experiences? > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> Wim de Winter > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
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