Re: Fwd: Hofstra show

Let us know what you decide, Auralie.
RE: > The person who wrote this said there wouldn't be much in the way of
> herbaceous perennials at this time of the year,
I don't compete in shows, but it seems to me that those who would, would
angle for a less populated category - better chance of winning.  They might
therefore concentrate on the many herbaceous plants that would be ready this
time of year.  Hellebores - perennial plant of the year.  Pulmonarias -
ablaze with bloom right now in Zone 5 (I thought you were in 5 or 6 )  How
about Mertensias - or are they considered a geophyte?  Epimediums.
Anemones.  And that's just my yard.  I know there are many other plants.

And as  far as competition goes, how can you compare daffodils to Lungworts?

Kitty

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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Hofstra show


> Thanks, Kitty.  It is standard practice to write one Section for
Herbaceous
> Perennials, and another Section for Bulbs, Corms and Tubers.
> The person who wrote this said there wouldn't be much in the way of
> herbaceous perennials at this time of the year, so she thought that
> if she put them all together and made an "any other" class she would
> be covered.  Personally, I think it was a pretty sloppy way to handle
> it, but this person is a noted expert, so who am I to say.  The only
> thing is that I am on the evaluating panel for the show's application
> for awards, and since I am the state's Horticulture Schools Chm.,
> the panel expects me to know such answers.  I just didn't want to
> stick my neck out and make a stupid error if the rest of the world
> thought bulbs were obviously herbaceous perennials.
> Auralie
>
>
> In a message dated 04/20/2005 10:31:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> 4042N15@nationalhearing.com writes:
> From Botanica's glossary:
> Herbaceous - In botany, the adjective describing herbs.  But among
> gardeners, it is used for perennial plants which die down to the ground
each
> year, for example, delphiniums.
>
> IMO, a bulb MAY be an herbaceous perennial according to the definition,
but
> only if they hadn't written an additional category for bulbs.  Realize
too,
> that some bulbs are evergreen.  Another thought comes to mind - and I'm no
> expert on this, but traditional perennial plants, when they die back, go
> dormant.  Many bulbs are never completely dormant, like Lilium, even
though
> they may seem to be.
>
> Her broad definition of: "...herbaceous perennials as those that die back
to
> the ground in the winter and come up each spring.", doesn't apply to many
> bulbs.  Grape Hyacinths are green all winter.  Tulips go dormant in
summer.
>
> Then you have the word bulb.  Is she including all geophytes?  corms?
> (crocosmia), tubers (dahlias), and tuberous roots (daylilies)
>
> She may have a certain technicality in her favor, but it opens up such a
> huge can of worms, that it would simply be smarter to set geophytes off
into
> a separate category.  And even then, I have trouble with where to put
> Hemerocallis. ;+)
>
> Kitty
>
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