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Re: Fwd: Hofstra show

Kitty, it would be possible, however unlikely, to have 349 first
place winners if all were different and each was worthy of a
first place.  However, we don't subdivide indefinitely. If there
were only three or four Geraniums, they would all compete in
one class.  But if there were ten Geraniums, three "Rozanne,"
three "Ballerina," and four others of other cultivars, we would
make three classes unless two of the others were the same, in
which case they would also be subdivided out.  We never 
subdivide out a single specimen unless there are two different
entries that are each so outstanding as to be worthy of a first.
To win a blue ribbon, an exhibit must score 90 points. We don't
just give blues automatically, as some county fairs do.
The object of the subdivisions is to group like specimens in
such a way as to rank them, but in a group of ten Geraniums
there might be three or four worthy of blue ribbons, and we try
to find a way to recognize such quality.  It also sometimes
happens that there is no worthy exhibit, and no ribbon is given.
If you pay attention to such divisions at the next flower show you
visit, you might begin to understand.

In the Hofstra show, there was a huge Section of daffodils - some
192 specimens.  .The original schedule listed  10 classes, one
each for the first 6 Divisions, one class for Division 7-8 (Jonquilla/
Tazetta - these are usually later, so they didn't expect so many), 
1 class for any-other Division, 2 classes for miniatures, which are
never judged in the same class with standards, and one class for 
three blooms, same cultivar.  Now, for instance, Division I, Trumpet
daffs, there were subdivisions for 'Mt. Hood,' 'King Alfred,' 'Spellbinder,'
all of which had several specimens.  Then there would have been a
subdivision for other yellow trumpets.  If there were several of one
cultivar they would have been put together, but if there were only one
of each of three or four cultivars, that would have been a class.  Same
for white trumpets and bicolor trumpets.  Any time there were two or
more with like characteristics, and at least one was award-worthy, a
subdivision would have been made.  This does several things.  It
recognizes merit, pleases exhibitors, and is easier and quicker for
judging.  If you are judging a very large class with several good entries,
it can be very difficult to choose the best.  Point-scoring is used to
decide close competitions, but can be very time-consuming.

I'm sure this is all more than you wanted to know.  My kids had a
saying  - If you don't really want to know, don't ask Ma.

In a message dated 04/20/2005 7:03:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
4042N15@nationalhearing.com writes:
Auralie, forgive my complete lack of knowledge of competition -  but if
there are subdivisions "by genus, species, variety/cultivar, size, color,
manner of  growth, or whatever else you can think of.", well, it seems to me
you could have 349 first place winners in 349 entries.  Maybe I'm not
understanding it correctly.  An entry of Geranium 'Rozanne' would only
compete against another entry of Geranium 'Rozanne'?  An entry of Gernaium
cinereum 'Ballerina' would not compete against one of Geranium cinereum
'Carol'?  If this is the case how would you ever have "six or seven
specimens in any one class"?

Or...are classes developed after all entries are in, so you'd create the
classes so they'd work out to "a maximum of six or seven specimens in any
one class"? Seven entries of Geranium 'Rozanne' would be a class, but if
there were a complete total of six of any kind of Geranium,  then that would
be a class?   If that were the case, I could see where it might cause sore
feelings on where the lines are drawn.

I have no interest in competing in anything, maybe that's why I can't figure
it out.

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