Re: Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?


I bought an apricot colored variety of Osteospermum last year but it really
lacked vigor and just petered out on me.  I don't know what I did wrong.
Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?


> Kitty, I just bought three of those from Lowe's.  I'll have to look up the
> cultivar, but I planted them next to the Black & Blue salvia.  I think
they
> are beautiful.
> zem
> zone 7
> West TN
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?
>
>
> > Bonnie,
> > Here's a pic of Osteospermum Symphony Vanilla - I think this is the one
I
> > have:
> > http://snipurl.com/e7dh
> > Here's another called O. Tradewinds Expt White & Blue
> > http://snipurl.com/e7di
> > You mentioned yours was a new variety, so it may look a little
different.
> > In my experience these are thirsty plants even though they have thick
> > leaves.  I propagate by just pinching off a short cutting, stripping the
> > bottom leaves, dip in rooting hormone, and inserting into a moist
> > perlite/vermiculite mix in a sweater box.  The first time I tried I made
> > the
> > cuttings too long and the tips browned out.  Then I saw someone in a
> > nursery
> > doing it with just the tips, so I tried it and they root nicely in 2-3
> > weeks.  If you do this in fall, the little cuttings will be full size
> > plants
> > by April, just remember to pinch to encourage branching.  The first year
I
> > brought the whole large plant in in the fall, about 18 in by 18 in and
cut
> > it back a bit.  When I planted it out the next spring, by fall it grew
to
> > a
> > mammoth 3 ft x 3 ft.  That's when I realized cuttings would be the
smarter
> > way to go.
> >
> > Here's a propagation/cultivation sheet on Osteospermum, but it is
written
> > more from a nursery's point of view:
> > http://www.ecke.com/html/fastfax/ff_ffx_sunscapedaisy.html
> >
> > I also found the following re their water needs:
> > "To grow flourishing Osteospermums, it is imperative that they are given
a
> > very free-draining situation; they have little tolerance for
continuously
> > damp or saturated soil. Their native, mountainous habitat is a good
> > indicator of the conditions to which they have successfully adapted. In
> > Cumbria, they thrive in containers and raised beds, but if grown in a
> > border, it is a good idea to break up the soil before planting and add
> > some
> > handfuls of grit to ensure they have the best chance of survival."
> >
> > Kitty
> > neIN, Z5
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?
> >
> >
> >> I did mention it to the committee last year, but I live in Washington
> >> Township and not in Centerville proper.  Since it is put on by
> > "Centerville
> >> City Beautiful," I don't think my comments count for much, though I can
> >> throw a rock and hit the Centerville city limit sign from my property.
> >> There are only about 4 people who put the show on, too, so maybe they
> > don't
> >> have the staff to fend folks off and make them turn in the tickets.
> >> (Yes,
> >> they did give out tickets like last year.)  I took 32 plants and
brought
> >> back (and gave most to Rayna) 20 plants and there were only 5 plants
> > (mostly
> >> lambs ear, which I have scads of.)  At least the "leftovers" will go
into
> > a
> >> community garden somewhere.  I would have gone only for the talk this
> >> year
> >> if daughter Rayna wasn't in need of some very common plants on a tight
> >> budget.  It irritates me that folks act like that, but I figure in the
> > long
> >> run, some time, some where, they will have that same treatment returned
> >> to
> >> them and I don't have to do anything or even know it happened.
> >>
> >> The talk was good and I did enjoy being with "plant people" for a
couple
> > of
> >> hours.  YEAH!!!  I didn't have to worry that folks would think I talked
> >> gibberish if I said a botanical name instead of a local common name.
> >>
> >> I did miss seeing Wendy Swope at the swap.  I haven't heard from her
> >> since
> >> her mother-in-law died and my e-mails did not go through to her old
> > address.
> >>
> >> And what I received must be the African daisy you described.  It really
> >> is
> >> quite a lovely thing, isn't it?  It must be considered an annual here
> >> too.
> >> How do I start more of these beautiful daisies?  Thanks for the I.D.!
> > I've
> >> got the pot in the shower, soaking it right now.  Mary didn't water
them
> > so
> >> the pots wouldn't be so heavy they couldn't be carried.  It will
probably
> > be
> >> a week or more before I can set that gem outdoors!  It really is quite
> >> lovely and already has it's fertilizer and great potting soil and I
> >> didn't
> >> even have to get my hands dirty!
> >>
> >> Blessings,
> >> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> > Behalf
> >> Of Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:31 PM
> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?
> >>
> >> Hi Bonnie,
> >> I remember you had the same complaint about this swap last year.  Have
> >> you
> >> voiced your objection to someone who could do something about it?  I'm
> > very
> >> glad you won the door prize though, sort of an award for your patience
> >> and
> >> endurance with the pushy crowd.
> >>
> >> Re > new variety of annual daisy (no name that I could find) with a
blue
> >> center.
> >> Is it an African Daisy?  Osteospermum,(also some other names)  I have a
> > very
> >> lovely pristine white one with a blue center that I carry over year to
> > year.
> >> They sell them as annuals here, but they are so vigorous and
unbelievably
> >> easy to grow from cuttings.  I've often seen these used in potted
> >> arrangements, so I thought this might be what you have.
> >>
> >> Re > as usual, more people took plants than brought them.
> >> I've never been to a swap; can you explain?  A swap indicates to me a
1:1
> >> exchange.  I seem to remember your saying that you received tickets for
> > the
> >> plants you brought.  You could hand one in for each plant.  I could
> >> understand that you might not use all your tickets if there was nothing
> > left
> >> that you really wanted to take home.  But how do people take MORE
plants
> >> than they brought?  Without tickets, how do they get the plants?
> >>
> >> I don't think I should ever attempt to go to a plant swap.  I don't
have
> >> your temperment.  I couldn't bring myself to take plants that weren't
> >> properly potted in good soil with fertilizer, properly named and
> > accompanied
> >> by a photo, and looking perky and happy (the flowers - I'm not
> > particularly
> >> perky anytime).  I f I did all that and then was faced with the
> > ill-mannered
> >> crowd you describe, I wouldn't do it again.  I'd just attend the talk.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:58 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm not quite far enough South.  We could get up to two inches of
snow
> > on
> >> > grassy surfaces (and garden areas) by morning.  Low should be around
29
> > F.
> >> > tonight.  I'm glad Bill helped me get the tree rose, magnolia tree
and
> >> other
> >> > not yet acclimated pots into the garage.
> >> >
> >> > As for the plant swap, well, I got plants for daughter Rayna mostly.
> > She
> >> > still needs some black-eyed Susan's and she got some sun-drops, some
> >> > day
> >> > lilies, some monarda, false dead nettle and a periwinkle.  As for me,
> >> > as
> >> > usual, more people took plants than brought them.  I still ended up
> >> > with
> > a
> >> > nice pot that looks like some variety of geranium--no tag and a canna
> >> > to
> >> put
> >> > into a pot for the front of the driveway.  There were folks that came
> >> > in
> >> > over halfway through the talks who stood in the back of the room next
> >> > to
> >> > where the plants were put that as soon as the talk was over, just
> >> > turned
> >> > around and scooped the really nice plants up.  I do wish they would
> >> organize
> >> > it differently!  Of such is life.
> >> >
> >> > Mary Higgins (well known in the area for her flowering pots) was
there
> > to
> >> > demonstrate how she arranges plants in pots with the usual do's &
> > don'ts.
> >> > In any case, at the end of the presentation, there were 4 large pots
> >> filled
> >> > with wonderful annuals.  I won one of them as a door prize.  It has
> > black
> >> &
> >> > blue salvia, bacopa, a variegated ageratum & purple alyssum, as well
as
> > a
> >> > new variety of annual daisy (no name that I could find) with a blue
> >> center.
> >> > It is very pretty and I was glad someone brought a trash bag or two
so
> >> > I
> >> > could cover it long enough to get it home.  I'm not the type to win
> >> things,
> >> > so I'm wondering if I should go buy a lottery ticket now?  Hmmm.
I've
> >> > probably used up all this year's luck anyway.
> >> >
> >> > Blessings,
> >> > Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)  Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >> Behalf
> >> > Of Donna
> >> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:23 AM
> >> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...
> >> >
> >> > Have a great time at the plant swap, let us know what treasures you
get
> > :)
> >> > Wish you had better weather for it... heard that you are in for a
> >> > winter
> >> > storm.... UCK! Although you might be south enough to miss
> > it...(hopefully)
> >> >
> >> > Donna
> >> > Where it is cold, but not snowing.....
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > It is spitting snow here amongst the rain drops.  It's 37 degrees
> >> outside
> >> > > so
> >> > > nothing has frozen or frosted yet.  What a miserable day to walk 5
> > dogs.
> >> > > Of
> >> > > such is life.
> >> > >
> >> > > Today is the annual Centerville garden seminar and plant swap.
I've
> >> only
> >> > > got three flats of plants to take in for the swap because of work,
> >> family
> >> > > and other obligations, not to mention the weather.  I decided not
to
> > pot
> >> > > so
> >> > > much in pots this year as I ran out of them last year.  I put a
> >> > > number
> >> of
> >> > > smaller division in plastic baggies with their soil.  At least it
is
> >> > > neatly
> >> > > contained.  I know I'll get things at the swap that are freshly dug
> > and
> >> in
> >> > > box lids and grocery bags without soil.  There is so much more I
> >> > > could
> >> > > take
> >> > > if I had the time to dig it out.  Maybe I'll have a yard/plant sale
> > when
> >> I
> >> > > get the rest out and potted up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I've got to get plant labels made up!  Everyone have a fabulous
day!
> >> > >
> >> > > Blessings,
> >> > > Bonnie
> >> >
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