Re: Pines in japanese gardens

Cyndi, I have no expertise in this but suspect pruning is equally important
to training.  In a quick Google search I found this web page
http://www.sabot.org/gguide/japan.htm
which refers to Japanese maples but at least answers some of the question re
larger trees (i.e., not bonsai).  I think one's eye and understanding of the
plant's natural growth pattern are of paramount importance.  I attended a
seminar once by a master Japanese-American bonsai maker and what he could
see in a "raw" plant and accomplish artistically (over many years) was way
beyond my ability or understanding -- and incredibly beautiful.
--Barb Tandy, Grass Valley CA
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From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ AFFTC/ITSR" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: [CHAT] Pines in japanese gardens


> I'm looking for a "how-to" reference...a book, or web page, or whatever.
You
> know how pine trees in Japanese gardens have that kind of bonsai look,
even
> though they are full size? Kind of leaning, wind-swept, with very clean
> lines and a sort of sculptural quality to them? What I need to know is how
> to do that to a young pine tree that will end up eventually at about 5'
> tall, and planted in the ground. I know that bonsai get wrapped in wire to
> gradually bend them to the right shape, but I'm not sure if the same thing
> is done for a larger tree. It would have to be some darn heavy wire! I've
> never seen any that look like they are in the process, I have plenty of
> pictures of what I want, I've seen lots o' books on Japanese gardens but I
> haven't found the instructions on shaping a larger tree. Any hints?
>
> Cyndi
>
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