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RE: An okay weekend

Alas, not all of California is like what you see on television, although I
suppose compared to many places you would call it balmy (ok, no California
jokes, I'm serious). I'm in the high desert - zone 8 - winter lows get into
the teens although it seems over the last 10 years or so the really cold
nights don't come very often. Our average first frost is late October and
last frost is mid-April. So I was tempting fate by not mulching the
tomatoes, seemed like an acceptable risk since we hadn't had a freeze for
some weeks, but I lost. Such is life.  
I know a lot of people who live in the Techachapi mountains, about an hour
north of where I live - they get snow every winter and their last frost is
sometime in June. There's some really nice properties up there but no way do
I want to be that cold for that long. 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Pam Evans
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:00 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] An okay weekend

A freeze??  This late?  That can't be usual is it?   I guess I always think
of CA as fairly balmy.

On 4/24/06, Bonnie & Bill Morgan <wmorgan972@ameritech.net> wrote:
> Sorry to hear about your freeze, Cyndi.  It does play havoc.  They are
> predicting a freeze tonight for us and more normal (cooler) temperatures
> this week.  I'm worried a little about the crop of plums on the plum tree.
> Last year was only its second year to fruit and this year the tree was
> loaded with blossoms.  I was sure hoping for a bumper crop as I love plums
> and so does wildlife in the area.  Of such is life.
> Here's hoping the rest of your efforts pay big dividends for you!
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
> Behalf
> Of Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:59 AM
> To: 'gardenchat@hort.net'
> Subject: [CHAT] An okay weekend
> It was one of those good news/bad news weekends here, but it was all minor
> stuff.
> It didn't rain, but it was really windy, worse on Sunday. I planted 10
> tomatoes last weekend; we had a freeze during mid-week (grrrr) and I lost
> 6
> of them. My own fault; I didn't mulch them at all, because I was in a
> hurry
> and figured we were past the last frost. I had some backups although I
> didn't have a replacement for the "Ugly" variety. I replanted everything
> and
> this time piled on the hay mulch. I also had to buy seed and replant much
> of
> my lettuce - which wasn't a surprise since I used old seed, but I was
> hoping
> for better.  I planted soybeans, squash, and a row of green beans.  I
> haven't yet put in the peppers, too cold still. Still need to plant the
> herbs - I'll be putting in one row each of cilantro, dill, parsley, and
> basil. And I think I'll try eggplant and maybe okra this year just for
> fun.
> My onions look great and so do the peas, and the lettuce that did
> germinate
> is about 2 inches by now.
> I noticed one of my jujube trees wasn't leafed out. I pulled on the trunk
> a
> little and it just popped out of the ground, obviously a gopher got to the
> roots. Only a year old so at least I don't have a lot invested. I think I
> will buy another - since they are supposed to pollinate better with two -
> and plant it very close to the first one, then I can buy something else
> for
> the vacant space. Maybe a pear, I've never tried one before.
> Two of the lilacs are spectacular and the others, always much later
> blooming, are getting leaves. The white lilac is apparently determined on
> world domination, sending out plenty of suckers, but hah hah, it can't go
> much farther from the bubbler.
> My front garden is green and lush although there's not much blooming yet.
> The daffodils are pretty much gone and the iris have barely started. Big
> buds on the roses though. Catmint is blooming, a little allium I've
> forgotten the name of, a few heucheras, and the vinca. The geraniums are
> HUGE this year but no flowers yet. The Spanish lavender in the dry garden
> is
> looking very nice as is salvia greggii; but the other salvias and the
> penstemons only have buds. Lots of California poppies and a few other
> wildflowers in there, and - sigh - more grass to weed out. Bigger sigh -
> another gopher got in there too.
> I'm disappointed in one of the things I got from High Country Gardens. The
> 3
> penstemon palmeri were really big compared to what they usually send, and
> completely rootbound. They are not looking so hot after transplanting. I
> guess I will drop them a note - after Kitty's experience I am wondering if
> their operation is starting to go downhill or if it's just coincidence.
> Theresa, thanks for the thought on the zauschneria. I am convinced my
> z.californica is dead and I'm pretty sure it didn't like the freeze. I put
> in the z.arizonica and will see how it does. Might be worth planting more
> of
> the californica and trying mulch around it some other year; I seem to
> remember that it went through repeated freezes before it was completely
> gone
> so perhaps a little protection would do it.
> Cyndi
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zone 8A

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