RE: An okay weekend

hum... I realized mountain areas would get cold, but
thought for the most part, California and freezing
weather were not common.

Thanks for the education!

Donna

--- Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT
<cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil> wrote:

> Alas, not all of California is like what you see on
> television, although I
> suppose compared to many places you would call it
> balmy (ok, no California
> jokes, I'm serious). I'm in the high desert - zone 8
> - winter lows get into
> the teens although it seems over the last 10 years
> or so the really cold
> nights don't come very often. Our average first
> frost is late October and
> last frost is mid-April. So I was tempting fate by
> not mulching the
> tomatoes, seemed like an acceptable risk since we
> hadn't had a freeze for
> some weeks, but I lost. Such is life.  
> I know a lot of people who live in the Techachapi
> mountains, about an hour
> north of where I live - they get snow every winter
> and their last frost is
> sometime in June. There's some really nice
> properties up there but no way do
> I want to be that cold for that long. 
> 
> Cyndi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> Of Pam Evans
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:00 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] An okay weekend
> 
> A freeze??  This late?  That can't be usual is it?  
> I guess I always think
> of CA as fairly balmy.
> 
> On 4/24/06, Bonnie & Bill Morgan
> <wmorgan972@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to hear about your freeze, Cyndi.  It does
> play havoc.  They are
> > predicting a freeze tonight for us and more normal
> (cooler) temperatures
> > this week.  I'm worried a little about the crop of
> plums on the plum tree.
> > Last year was only its second year to fruit and
> this year the tree was
> > loaded with blossoms.  I was sure hoping for a
> bumper crop as I love plums
> > and so does wildlife in the area.  Of such is
> life.
> >
> > Here's hoping the rest of your efforts pay big
> dividends for you!
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT
> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:59 AM
> > To: 'gardenchat@hort.net'
> > Subject: [CHAT] An okay weekend
> >
> > It was one of those good news/bad news weekends
> here, but it was all minor
> > stuff.
> > It didn't rain, but it was really windy, worse on
> Sunday. I planted 10
> > tomatoes last weekend; we had a freeze during
> mid-week (grrrr) and I lost
> > 6
> > of them. My own fault; I didn't mulch them at all,
> because I was in a
> > hurry
> > and figured we were past the last frost. I had
> some backups although I
> > didn't have a replacement for the "Ugly" variety.
> I replanted everything
> > and
> > this time piled on the hay mulch. I also had to
> buy seed and replant much
> > of
> > my lettuce - which wasn't a surprise since I used
> old seed, but I was
> > hoping
> > for better.  I planted soybeans, squash, and a row
> of green beans.  I
> > haven't yet put in the peppers, too cold still.
> Still need to plant the
> > herbs - I'll be putting in one row each of
> cilantro, dill, parsley, and
> > basil. And I think I'll try eggplant and maybe
> okra this year just for
> > fun.
> > My onions look great and so do the peas, and the
> lettuce that did
> > germinate
> > is about 2 inches by now.
> > I noticed one of my jujube trees wasn't leafed
> out. I pulled on the trunk
> > a
> > little and it just popped out of the ground,
> obviously a gopher got to the
> > roots. Only a year old so at least I don't have a
> lot invested. I think I
> > will buy another - since they are supposed to
> pollinate better with two -
> > and plant it very close to the first one, then I
> can buy something else
> > for
> > the vacant space. Maybe a pear, I've never tried
> one before.
> > Two of the lilacs are spectacular and the others,
> always much later
> > blooming, are getting leaves. The white lilac is
> apparently determined on
> > world domination, sending out plenty of suckers,
> but hah hah, it can't go
> > much farther from the bubbler.
> > My front garden is green and lush although there's
> not much blooming yet.
> > The daffodils are pretty much gone and the iris
> have barely started. Big
> > buds on the roses though. Catmint is blooming, a
> little allium I've
> > forgotten the name of, a few heucheras, and the
> vinca. The geraniums are
> > HUGE this year but no flowers yet. The Spanish
> lavender in the dry garden
> > is
> > looking very nice as is salvia greggii; but the
> other salvias and the
> > penstemons only have buds. Lots of California
> poppies and a few other
> > wildflowers in there, and - sigh - more grass to
> weed out. Bigger sigh -
> > another gopher got in there too.
> > I'm disappointed in one of the things I got from
> High Country Gardens. The
> > 3
> > penstemon palmeri were really big compared to what
> they usually send, and
> > completely rootbound. They are not looking so hot
> after transplanting. I
> > guess I will drop them a note - after Kitty's
> experience I am wondering if
> > their operation is starting to go downhill or if
> it's just coincidence.
> > Theresa, thanks for the thought on the
> zauschneria. I am convinced my
> > z.californica is dead and I'm pretty sure it
> didn't like the freeze. I put
> > in the z.arizonica and will see how it does. Might
> be worth planting more
> > of
> > the californica and trying mulch around it some
> other year; I seem to
> > remember that it went through repeated freezes
> before it was completely
> > gone
> > so perhaps a little protection would do it.
> >
> > Cyndi
> >
> >
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> Pam Evans
> Kemp TX
> zone 8A
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