Re: Re: Help with H. americana!

Well, one does have to make allowances for volunteers tho' I'd have a
bit of trouble being nice about doing so in the face of idiocy:-)

I think I have a built in problem with someone calling themselves a
Master Gardener when they really are not....takes years of experience
and some fanatical devotion to become a real 'Master' at anything; a
crash course does not do the trick.  

Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
mtalt@hort.net
Shadyside Garden Designs

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> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> 
> Marge,
> I do rather agree with you re our MGs, but then they are volunteers
and have 
> families and live long distance from the gardens. I guess they
don't like to 
> start too early in the season.
> 
> They do shred the leaves somewhat, but they pile them too high imo.
> 
> > have nothing against Impatiens - more appropriate for a woodland
> > garden than coleus IMO
> Chuckle...they love Coleus.  Now they don't use Impatiens, but they
love 
> scattering coleus everywhere. Sigh.
> 
> > does not sound like that group are really interested
> > in gardening as I understand the term.
> A lot of MGs are just dabblers.  They take the crash MG course and
then they 
> decorate rather than garden imo.  But as I said, these are people
with all 
> sorts of interests and this is just a small portion of their lives.
 Don't 
> get me wrong, some have a lot of expertise, but more of them are
just having 
> some fun.
> 
> 
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Help with H. americana!
> 
> 
> > Another oldie.....
> >
> > Nah....hederafiolia is a fall bloomer - can start mid-late summer
if
> > it gets enough water to wake it up.
> >
> > Your MGs make me wonder if they're actually "Master" gardeners.
> > Leaves are fine, but they have to start coming off early March
or, as
> > you rightly point out, they smother the early plants and it's
much
> > better to chop them than leave them whole if time permits...and
not
> > put them down a foot thick unless you intend to start a new bed. 
I
> > have nothing against Impatiens - more appropriate for a woodland
> > garden than coleus IMO, but it appears your group is just using
> > whatever to extreme and neglecting all the lovely things they
could
> > be growing if they had sense enough.  Pity.
> >
> > Think, considering, you're right to just get them what they ask
for
> > and forget it; does not sound like that group are really
interested
> > in gardening as I understand the term.
> >
> > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> > mtalt@hort.net
> > Shadyside Garden Designs
> >
> > ----------
> >> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> >>
> >> Mine were Cyclamen coum, purchased in 2003.  I guess I thought
C.
> >> hederafolia would also bloom in February.
> >>
> >> As to these MGs...they tend a garden called the Woodland Fen. 
They
> > have the
> >> standard fare of Hostas, ferns, Hellebores, some Astilbes,
> > Heucheras, a
> >> couple of Toadlilies.  Beyond that, they used to cover the whole
> > thing in a
> >> layer of Impatiens, which made me cringe. Fortunately, they
stopped
> > that
> >> practice. Now they fill in everywhere with coleus. oh well.  
Since
> > the
> >> current group took this garden over several years ago, they've
lost
> > all
> >> their Trilliums, most of their Barrenworts, and almost all new
> > ephemerals I
> >> got for them.  Why?  Their method of putting the garden to bed
is
> > to heap
> >> leaves over everything until you can't see anything at all. 
That
> > in itself
> >> might not be too bad as the winter winds do remove some of that.
> > However,
> >> they don't uncover the garden until latest April, maybe May.  So
> > what's the
> >> point of Cyclamen? or Trillium?  I think they've just smothered
or
> > neglected
> >> the early stuff becuase it doesn't perform when they are paying
> > attention.
> >> Anyway, I've stopped suggesting lovely woodland plants and just
get
> > them
> >> what they want.
> >
> >
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