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RE: More demons of ignorance, arrogance, and darkness

Sounds as though you have to emphasize that these are considered protected
even if they grow them on their property AND they will not be allowed. 
Maybe, a test that has arrangements and ask them which will be

I think a lot of people have gotten used to ignoring rules, thinking they
can get around them.  I see it all the time.

> [Original Message]
> From: Rich Apking <red4@omni-tech.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 4/28/2006 11:43:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] More demons of ignorance, arrogance, and darkness
> Well, you know the old expression how you can bring a horse (or horse's
> to water, but you can't make them drink?  This one might fit in this case.
> "Rots of Ruck"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
> Behalf Of Aplfgcnys@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:20 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] More demons of ignorance, arrogance, and darkness
> In a message dated 04/28/2006 5:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> godihabib@verizon.net writes:
> Kitty,
> What if you explain and show it ten times and it STILL is done the wrong
> way, what do you do then?
> Godi zone 7
> Mt. Vernon, VA
> Maybe you guys can help me with a similar but unrelated problem.
> The Federated Garden Clubs of New York State have a policy
> restricting the use of plants on the NY State (not Garden Club)
> Protected Plant List in competitive classes in a flower show.
> The policy says "Commercially developed named hybrids or
> cultivars (NOT NATURAL VARIETIES) of plants on the NY
> list are permitted in competitive classes, but ONLY when the
> I have been organizing state-sponsored Horticulture Schools
> for nearly 18 years now.  In every single school - totalling nearly
> 30 - I have made a special emphasis of this policy.  I have
> shown them acceptable named cultivars.  I have shown them
> a slide program of protected plants.  I have brought in examples
> of those not permitted.  Every time I have asked if anyone does
> not understand.  They all assure me they understand completely.
> Yet I include a question on every exam requiring an understanding
> of this matter, and out of several hundred papers I have graded,
> maybe 10 have answered the question correctly.  And this week
> a student who is an Nationally Accredited judge, and who has
> taken two of my previous Hort. schools, brought in a branch of
> dogwood (Cornus florida) which is on the list, and which I had
> used as an example several times, and expressed disbelief
> when I told her it could not be used in a flower show.  "But it
> grows in my yard" she said.  I feel totally depressed and
> frustrated.  What am I missing?  What am I doing wrong or
> not doing?
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