Re: Tomatoes (was RE: Windy weekend)
gardenchat@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: Tomatoes (was RE: Windy weekend)
  • From: B* <b*@comcast.net>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:19:18 +0000 (UTC)
Very interesting. Here, we have high humidity and much less temperature
range between day and night. I guess I shouldn't even think about giving
advice to a semi-arid or arid situation as the environment is so
different.

http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/news/gardeningtips2.html - Growing tomatoes in Las Vegas; would this environment be similar? 
http://westtexasgardening.org/GroundBreaker/gb032808.html West Texas tomatoes? 

Bonnie 
ETN Zone 7 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI Johnson" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil> 
To: gardenchat@hort.net 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:04:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Tomatoes (was RE: [CHAT] Windy weekend) 

It could be the night temps here too, I'm not sure. The desert tends to 
cool off pretty quickly as soon as the sun goes down and I haven't paid 
that much attention to the lows in summer. This reference I found on 
UNLV's website gives pretty much all the problems I have with tomatoes: 

http://www.unce.unr.edu/publications/files/ho/other/fs8860.pdf 

It says temps above 90F during the day are the main cause of blossom 
drop, and temps of 104F for only a few hours causes aborted blossoms. 
That's not uncommon here in the summer. Poor tomatoes... 
It would be interesting to try the shade cloth and some misters. 

Cyndi 


-----Original Message----- 
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On 
Behalf Of james singer 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:21 AM 
To: gardenchat@hort.net 
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Windy weekend 

Doubtful, but try it... could be interesting. 

In Florida, the summer shut down was associated with nighttime temps 
[above 50-something, as I recall] more than daytime. 


On Apr 13, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/ 
SCOSI wrote: 

> In my garden tomatoes shut down fruit production once we get into real 
> summer (days over 95F) and don't start setting again until it cools 
> down. Eggplants keep on going as do peppers. 
> I've wondered if I would get more tomatoes if I set up shade cloth 
> over 
> the tomato plants, maybe some kind of canopy so they'd be shaded in 
> the 
> afternoon. 
> 
> Cyndi 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On 
> Behalf Of james singer 
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:38 PM 
> To: gardenchat@hort.net 
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Windy weekend 
> 
> Potato's a relative, too, and as a native of the Andes, will likely 
> tolerate more cold than and of the other Solanums. But more to the 
> point, perhaps, there's also a Solanum that's a tropical fruit [I 
> forget the name], which doesn't grow very well much north of Key West. 
> The fruit occasionally shows up in upscale groceries; egg-shaped and 
> sized, yellow-green, sweet, little flavor, usually over priced. 
> 
> On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:37 AM, BONNIE_HOLMES wrote: 
> 
>> Eggplant is so similar to tomato; seems they would both like the 
>> same conditions. Comments from anyone? 
>> 
>> Bonnie 
>> ETN Zone 7 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI Johnson" 
> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil 
>>> 
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net 
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:39:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Windy weekend 
>> 
>> I should go out there with my thermometer and see what I get, I've 
>> never 
>> looked before. I am usually trying to push the season because we will 
>> start getting above 90F by mid-June. A lot of my vegetable crops 
>> have a 
>> really short window between the time they set fruit until it's too 
>> hot 
>> to pollinate. Melons, peppers, squash do fine in the heat but the 
>> beans, 
>> tomatoes, and corn have to be ready to start flowering by mid-May. 
>> And I 
>> never plan on having lettuce, spinach or peas past May. 
>> Too bad we don't like okra. That and eggplant do pretty well in high 
>> heat. I like eggplant in limited quantities but husband won't eat it 
>> at 
>> all. 
>> 
>> Cyndi 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On 
>> Behalf Of BONNIE_HOLMES 
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:44 AM 
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net 
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Windy weekend 
>> 
>> I always wait until soil temperatures are 50B0+ before planting 
>> outside. 
>> Have 
>> better crops and healthier plants than when early planting. 
>> 
>> Bonnie 
>> ETN Zone 7 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI Johnson" 
>> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil> 
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net 
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:38:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
>> Subject: [CHAT] Windy weekend 
>> 
>> So once again, my little bit of California had decent weather most of 
>> the work week which degraded into windy and cold for the weekend. 
>> Argh. 
>> I did plant some tomatoes, they are getting big enough I don't want 
>> to 
>> hold them in the greenhouse much longer. Figured with enough mulch 
>> and 
>> the wall-o-water protectors it would be okay as we are probably not 
>> going to get more frost. So far so good although I didn't have enough 
>> protectors. I swear I ordered more this winter but maybe I dreamed 
>> it. 
>> Anyway there remains in the greenhouse six plants plus a few spares, 
>> and 
>> the peppers and the ornamentals are still in there as well. I moved 
>> the 
>> big pots out to the patio but I didn't realize how much the geraniums 
>> had grown over the winter. I used a few words trying to maneuver them 
>> out the door without breaking too much off. Then after I had wrestled 
>> the first one out and finally got it positioned I looked down and 
>> there 
>> was a black widow spider the size of a half-dollar crawling out of 
>> the 
>> pot! 
>> I bought a flat of gazania for the area I cleared out front. It's 
>> never 
>> been my favorite plant but it's tough and drought tolerant, and 
>> with a 
>> little water it blooms all summer, those are good qualities. It just 
>> looks sort of untidy to me, but maybe that's because I usually see it 
>> along the freeways and in parking lots. If I hate it I can rip it 
>> out. I 
>> am still trying to come up with stuff that will work in that half- 
>> shady 
>> but dry area. Fine Gardening had a couple pages of suggestions in 
>> their 
>> last issue and I'm trying to decide what to get. 
>> What did you do over the weekend? 
>> 
>> Cyndi 
>> 
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> Inland Jim 
> Willamette Valley 
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