Re: Tomatoes (was RE: Windy weekend)
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  • Subject: Re: Tomatoes (was RE: Windy weekend)
  • From: j* s* <i*@q.com>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:48:23 -0700
That other Solanum I was trying to remember is the pepino [Solanum  
muricatum]," but it's not as tropical as I thought.

On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:19 AM, BONNIE_HOLMES wrote:

> Very interesting. Here, we have high humidity and much less  
> temperature
> range between day and night. I guess I shouldn't even think about  
> giving
> advice to a semi-arid or arid situation as the environment is so
> different.
>
> http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/news/gardeningtips2.html - Growing  
> tomatoes in Las Vegas; would this environment be similar?
> http://westtexasgardening.org/GroundBreaker/gb032808.html West Texas  
> tomatoes?
>
> Bonnie
> ETN Zone 7
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI Johnson" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil 
> >
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:04:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Tomatoes (was RE: [CHAT] Windy weekend)
>
> It could be the night temps here too, I'm not sure. The desert tends  
> to
> cool off pretty quickly as soon as the sun goes down and I haven't  
> paid
> that much attention to the lows in summer. This reference I found on
> UNLV's website gives pretty much all the problems I have with  
> tomatoes:
>
> http://www.unce.unr.edu/publications/files/ho/other/fs8860.pdf
>
> It says temps above 90F during the day are the main cause of blossom
> drop, and temps of 104F for only a few hours causes aborted blossoms.
> That's not uncommon here in the summer. Poor tomatoes...
> It would be interesting to try the shade cloth and some misters.
>
> Cyndi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of james singer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:21 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Windy weekend
>
> Doubtful, but try it... could be interesting.
>
> In Florida, the summer shut down was associated with nighttime temps
> [above 50-something, as I recall] more than daytime.
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/
> SCOSI wrote:
>
>> In my garden tomatoes shut down fruit production once we get into  
>> real
>> summer (days over 95F) and don't start setting again until it cools
>> down. Eggplants keep on going as do peppers.
>> I've wondered if I would get more tomatoes if I set up shade cloth
>> over
>> the tomato plants, maybe some kind of canopy so they'd be shaded in
>> the
>> afternoon.
>>
>> Cyndi
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> Behalf Of james singer
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:38 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Windy weekend
>>
>> Potato's a relative, too, and as a native of the Andes, will likely
>> tolerate more cold than and of the other Solanums. But more to the
>> point, perhaps, there's also a Solanum that's a tropical fruit [I
>> forget the name], which doesn't grow very well much north of Key  
>> West.
>> The fruit occasionally shows up in upscale groceries; egg-shaped and
>> sized, yellow-green, sweet, little flavor, usually over priced.
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:37 AM, BONNIE_HOLMES wrote:
>>
>>> Eggplant is so similar to tomato; seems they would both like the
>>> same conditions. Comments from anyone?
>>>
>>> Bonnie
>>> ETN Zone 7
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI Johnson"
>> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil
>>>>
>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:39:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
>>> Eastern
>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Windy weekend
>>>
>>> I should go out there with my thermometer and see what I get, I've
>>> never
>>> looked before. I am usually trying to push the season because we  
>>> will
>>> start getting above 90F by mid-June. A lot of my vegetable crops
>>> have a
>>> really short window between the time they set fruit until it's too
>>> hot
>>> to pollinate. Melons, peppers, squash do fine in the heat but the
>>> beans,
>>> tomatoes, and corn have to be ready to start flowering by mid-May.
>>> And I
>>> never plan on having lettuce, spinach or peas past May.
>>> Too bad we don't like okra. That and eggplant do pretty well in high
>>> heat. I like eggplant in limited quantities but husband won't eat it
>>> at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Cyndi
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]  
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of BONNIE_HOLMES
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:44 AM
>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Windy weekend
>>>
>>> I always wait until soil temperatures are 50B0+ before planting
>>> outside.
>>> Have
>>> better crops and healthier plants than when early planting.
>>>
>>> Bonnie
>>> ETN Zone 7
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI Johnson"
>>> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:38:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
>>> Eastern
>>> Subject: [CHAT] Windy weekend
>>>
>>> So once again, my little bit of California had decent weather most  
>>> of
>>> the work week which degraded into windy and cold for the weekend.
>>> Argh.
>>> I did plant some tomatoes, they are getting big enough I don't want
>>> to
>>> hold them in the greenhouse much longer. Figured with enough mulch
>>> and
>>> the wall-o-water protectors it would be okay as we are probably not
>>> going to get more frost. So far so good although I didn't have  
>>> enough
>>> protectors. I swear I ordered more this winter but maybe I dreamed
>>> it.
>>> Anyway there remains in the greenhouse six plants plus a few spares,
>>> and
>>> the peppers and the ornamentals are still in there as well. I moved
>>> the
>>> big pots out to the patio but I didn't realize how much the  
>>> geraniums
>>> had grown over the winter. I used a few words trying to maneuver  
>>> them
>>> out the door without breaking too much off. Then after I had  
>>> wrestled
>>> the first one out and finally got it positioned I looked down and
>>> there
>>> was a black widow spider the size of a half-dollar crawling out of
>>> the
>>> pot!
>>> I bought a flat of gazania for the area I cleared out front. It's
>>> never
>>> been my favorite plant but it's tough and drought tolerant, and
>>> with a
>>> little water it blooms all summer, those are good qualities. It just
>>> looks sort of untidy to me, but maybe that's because I usually see  
>>> it
>>> along the freeways and in parking lots. If I hate it I can rip it
>>> out. I
>>> am still trying to come up with stuff that will work in that half-
>>> shady
>>> but dry area. Fine Gardening had a couple pages of suggestions in
>>> their
>>> last issue and I'm trying to decide what to get.
>>> What did you do over the weekend?
>>>
>>> Cyndi
>>>
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>> Inland Jim
>> Willamette Valley
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