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Re: now chemical contaminants

I suggest pressure using the press. That's what helped when the EPA was
allowing toxic waste to be used on farm land  as fertilizer in  eastern WA.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] now chemical contaminants

> I think my frustration with the EPA is just beginning...I spent an hour
> on the phone yesterday with an EPA agent who is working on our spill and
> it was like pulling a tiger's teeth to try to get her to commit to a
> straight answer about anything. Basically looks like the EPA is planning
> on "studying" this site for quite some time to come and have no
> immediate plans to do anything about cleaning it up...I'm quite sure I
> don't want to just wait around for the next couple of years while the
> EPA analyzes things to death...anybody out there with any experience in
> dealing with governmental agencies like the EPA who would be willing to
> offer some advice about how to move them from a "researching the issue"
> standpoint to a quick clean-up?? I'd sure appreciate any and all advice.
> Thanks!
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Wed 08/13, Theresa- yahoo < tchessie@yahoo.com > wrote:
> From: Theresa- yahoo [mailto: tchessie@yahoo.com]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:31:22 -0700
> Subject: RE: [CHAT]  now chemical contaminants
> Good grief that is scary. I also recently learned that the FDA does not
> use<br>the EPA's guidelines for various substance when they determine if
> foods are<br>safe to eat. So, for example, the EPA dictates a specific
> level of PCBs<br>that can be in wild Salmon in order for it to be
> sold/ingested. However,<br>the FDA permits levels many times higher in
> farmed Salmon. Does this make<br>any sense?? Apparently the food pellets
> fed to farmed salmon have a high<br>PCB level in them. Great! I can eat
> wild Salmon (at least until there are<br>none anymore), but what about
> the waterways the farm-raised ones are in, and<br>the poor people who
> feed them (likely with bare hands) and process them.<br>EEK!<br><br>I
> wonder how many other things we eat have these different
> standards<br>applied?<br><br>Theresa<br><br>P.S. Aren;t perchlorates
> also the stuff from drycleaning? or am I thinking<br>of something
> else?<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
> owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On<br>Behalf
> Of Pamela J. Evans<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:07 PM<br>To:
> gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies, etc now chemical
> contaminants<br><br><br>How horrible! Please be careful and keep us
> posted!<br><br>---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------<br>From: "Melody"
> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date: Wed, 13
> Aug 2003 05:43:15 -0400 (EDT)<br><br>>Nora: I agree with you that there
> are some very scary things going on<br>>out there...in the past week the
> EPA disclosed in a public town meeting<br>>with our little bitty tiny
> town that our groundwater supply is<br>>contaminated with perchlorates
> (a by-product of rocket fuel and<br>>fertilizer production) and that it
> is not safe for anyone in town to<br>>ingest it without further
> testing...and since we are all on private<br>>wells or sandpoints (more
> shallow form of well) as opposed to a<br>>municipal water service, this
> testing could take a while. No real<br>>answers forthcoming about ini
> tial source of the contamination or how<br>>soon we can proceed to just
> cleaning it up (or where the funding for<br>>such an massive undertaking
> is going to come from)...it's been a very<br>>frustrating
> week...sigh!!<br>><br>><br>><br>>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>"The most
> beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>>--Albert
> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Sun 08/10, Ray & Nora Edwards <
> raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net ><br>wrote:<br>>From: Ray & Nora
> Edwards [mailto: raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net]<br>>To:
> gardenchat@hort.net<br>>Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:36:54
> -0700<br>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies, etc<br>><br>>I will have to
> check that one out - thanks Gene. First I have to
> get<br>>over<br>reading about all the chemical dumping in eastern WA.
> that was<br>>supposed to<br>be good for the soil. There are some scary
> things going<br>>on.<br><br>Nora<br>----- Original Message
> -----<br>From: "Gene Bush"<br>><genebush@otherside.com><br>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Saturday,<br>>August 09, 2003 4:35
> AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies,<br>>etc<br><br><br>> If you want
> to be entertained and have your blood<br>>chilled, read "Oryx and<br>>
> Crake" by Margaret Atwood of The Handmaid's<br>>Tale fame. GE taken to
> the<br>> future.<br>> Gene E. Bush<br>> Munchkin<br>>Nursery & Gardens,
> llc<br>>
> www.munchkinnursery.com<br>><br>>genebush@munchkinnursery.com<br>> Zone
> 6/5 Southern Indiana<br>><br>><br>>----- Original Message -----<br>> >
> Do you live near crop areas? I f so<br>>,I would put my money on
> genetic<br>> > engineered crops. Things like<br>>B.T. in corn crops will
> be impacting<br>> > butterflies for some time I<br>>think.<br>> > I read
> a watch dog report in OG recently that referred to<br>>a report
> from<br>a<br>> > former FDA official who said that they are
> ill<br>>prepared to monitor<br>> > Monsanto's GE crops. Currently they
> are<br>>testing plants that are<br>engineered<br>> > to produce
> pharmaceuticals.<br>>Corn spliced with pig vaccine strayed
> into<br>soy<br>> > bean crops<br>>meant for humans
> .
> For the lapse they were fined $250,000 then<br>> ><br>>they were given
> 3.5 Million interest free from the federal government<br>>.<br>>
> That<br>> > should teach them! We should all be worried
> about<br>>this.<br>> ><br>> >
> Nora<br>><br>><br>>-------------------------------------------------------
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