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Re: hort.net moving?

Focus Groups are great, but they also flood the system with ads that
promote what they want to sell. I believe I just read somewhere that
Proven winners is coming out with 500 new plants which will bleed into
the markets within the next two years.. sigh. how do you make choices
and worse yet, why are they coming out with that many.... flooding the
market is gonna be a killer to many. I will say, they do know how to
advertise their featured plants...

My local nursery does listen to what the customers want. If I leave my
list of what I am looking for, he seems to get them. I am sure he is
basing that on how many people are looking for a certain plant, not just
me. Speaking of which, tomorrow night he is having one of his 'evening
on the Prairie' events for the regular customers. Besides the sale, he
is advertising entertainment and refreshments. He has some speakers with
limited time so you don't get bored. A special thank You from the owner,
hardscapes to create Outdoor rooms, Illuninate your outdoor rooms, time
with representatives to answer specific questions and an night tour of
the Ruins Gardens. Should be interesting if he does what he usually

Anyone got a specific question for the reps?

----- Original Message ----
From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:29:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] hort.net moving?

Hmmm...it seems to me that this could be the...what do they call it when 
marketing people...oh yeah - Focus Group - to help determine plants to be 
carried by BVN.  The more people who come looking for a particular plant 
will help him make selections for his catalog.  You might as well carry the 
plants people want.  I already want half the items in his catalog, but I do 
know how hard it can be to make selections for the next season that you can 
be sure of selling.

neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] hort.net moving?

> That is a great service.  Need I tell everybody how many times I've seen a 
> great looking plant and then spent an inordinate amount of time trying to 
> find where it acquire it?
> zem
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] hort.net moving?
>> Many of the plants in the Dave's Garden data base are linked to nurseries 
>> that sell them. See, for example:
>> http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1/index.html
>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Christopher P. Lindsey wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>    I think I'm going to move hort.net to an offsite ISP in the coming 
>>> months.
>>>    As you know, I lost Heronswood as a customer this spring, so that 
>>> took
>>>    away about $3500 in income.  I now have another customer that pays
>>>    $2400/year that I have good reason to believe will go away, so that's
>>>    going to leave me in a big financial hole.  As it is, I've paid $2000
>>>    out-of-pocket this year to keep the site running, but with a monthly
>>>    bill of $600 for the Internet connection it's going to keep getting
>>>    worse.
>>>    I've been looking at colocation options where I can host a server on
>>>    another network for about $200/month.  They'll manage the hardware 
>>> for
>>>    me, but I'll be responsible for my own software installation and
>>>    stuff.  I'll also probably drop many of the sites that I've been
>>>    hosting, so the main server use will just be for hort.net.  Google
>>>    ads will pay for most of the cost and I've been doing some freelance
>>>    programming for the American Iris Society that will hopefully cover
>>>    the rest.
>>>    There shouldn't be anything different service-wise and hopefully
>>>    the site will be a lot faster.  The downside is that I lose a lot of
>>>    control over the network and system configurations and we're limited
>>>    to only one server, so if the processing speed isn't enough we're
>>>    out of luck.  It may also turn out that this isn't feasible because
>>>    our site uses to much bandwidth and disk space.
>>>    If anyone has any ideas or comments, please let me know or share them
>>>    with the list.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>> P.S.  I don't want to hear talk of donations and stuff.  :)  Although
>>>       appreciated, it would just be a temporary fix.  We either need
>>>       more (self-sufficient) customers, a sponsor to pay for the site,
>>>       or some other plan.
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>> Island Jim
>> Southwest Florida
>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
>> Hardiness Zone 10
>> Heat Zone 10
>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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