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RE: Onions and grapes

I was thinking it would work much better with a juicer. Then I thought,
I would probably never use a juicer except for this. But you never know
maybe someday I will have a few hundred bucks I don't need...
We don't eat all the jelly and jams I make either, maybe two jars a
year. I give them all away at Christmas. Great workplace gifties, I just
bring in the box and let them pick what they want. 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Judy Browning
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:31 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Onions and grapes

I made grape juice once, using a steamer type juicer. Juice comes out
ready to can or make jelly. You wash the grapes then strip them off the
Good stuff but my family wouldn't use it, so I've never made it again.
Too much work to waste it.
Judy B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: [CHAT] Onions and grapes

>I harvested the rest of the onions, these are "Candy", a nice yellow
> onion. They did extremely well this year and I'll definitely plant
> again. I only had a few of them show signs of stress (they start
> double bulbs inside the outer layer) and their average size is a
> whopping five inches across. I had a couple monsters at 8 inches
> So the spare fridge is full of onions and there's another 20 pounds of
> so just sitting in the garage waiting for inspiration to strike me -
> they can't stay there long, it's too hot in there. You should be happy
> that you associate with me only via email, because we'll be eating a
> of onions now.
> So we have these grapevines. They are wine grapes we planted many
> ago, mostly for fun, thinking one day we might get ambitious and try
> making our own wine, which we haven't. Years ago I picked a bunch of
> them and make grape jelly, and about all I remember of it is learning
> that if you don't let the grape juice sit for a couple days you get
> tartaric acid crystals in your jelly. We hack back the vines when they
> get rambunctious and let the birds eat the grapes, they are very small
> grapes and have lots of seeds so they're not good for just eating.
> Anyway this year they had a nice crop and I've been looking at them,
> thinking as I do every year I ought to do something with them. Late
> Sunday afternoon husband and I got a wild hair and we picked about 20
> pounds or so and dragged out the tomato squeezer, figuring we'll
> them up and have grape juice. We found out right away that there's a
> reason they have different "screens" for squishing tomatoes vs.
> so plan B was removing the grapes off the stems and then sending them
> through the squeezer, very tedious.  Well. The resulting, ummm, stuff
> was pretty sludgy and just this awful color of green/brown (the color
> wine comes from the grape skins, not the juice). So I dumped a bunch
> the skins back in it and let it sit. This morning we now have more of
> brown/green color, only marginally better, and I managed to strain out
> some of the sludge. It's fairly tasty though. I expect eventually I'll
> get something drinkable but obviously we need different equipment if
> we're going to ever do this again. Probably be another 10 years before
> we forget this experiment! Not everything I do turns out well.
> Husband and I did work in the dry garden too. I showed him the
> (dune primrose) that could be pulled out, and told him not to touch
> anything except that and grass. Instantly he says "how about this?",
> pointing at freeze-damaged (but not dead) salvia. No, I said, don't
> touch anything except those two things. "But how about this?" pointing
> at the opuntia and so forth and so on. I had to threaten him with
> bodily harm but he did finally give in. So it doesn't look much
> different - it looks like a desert garden at the end of summer, which
> to say, not too great - but I think he feels better. Oh yes and my
> opuntia, which was greatly damaged in the Big Freeze, still does look
> poorly - but it is putting forth new pads at the edges of many of the
> damaged ones, and there were even some blooms. I dumped a couple
> of water on it and I have hopes that eventually it will be looking
> again.
> Cyndi
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