Re: did you know
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- From: C* C* <c*@comcast.net>
- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:27:44 -0500
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It is toxic to the human thyroid. Doctors actually use it to treat hyperthyroidism.
Cathy On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Kitty wrote:
Kitty neIN, Zone 5 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kitty To: Melody Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [CHAT] did you knowWell, of course, the retail site wasn't going to mention toxicity unless itwas required to do so. However, throughout your message, you mentioncontamination with perchlorate. But what exactly does it do to our soil andwater that we should fear? Kitty neIN, Zone 5 ----- Original Message ----- From: Melody To: gardenchat@hort.net ; kmrsy@comcast.net Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] did you knowUnfortunately it seems that the research you are reporting on has omitted the one drawback to South American bat guano...it contains high levels of anextremely toxic chemical called perchlorate. Interestingly enough,perchlorate is also a common ingredient in ammunition manufacturing as well as in rocket fuel used by the military and was also used as a storage medium for the spent byproducts of nuclear weapons manufacturing (i.e. uranium and plutonium). One of the largest world exporters of bat guano at the turn of the 19th century was Chile and Chilean bat guano is the only place in nature where perchlorate occurs naturally. All over the US there are groundwater and deep level aquifers polluted by this substance that takes over a century tobreak down into harmless nitrogen, oxygen, and carbons. And once thegroundwater becomes polluted, it can leach into the soil above and around it. Many of you may remember that our groundwater here in Hills, IA (pop. 679) is contaminated with perchlorate. EPA still has not nailed down a source other than possibly the fireworks displays we do once a year (yeah, that's what they say but hydrogeologist friends of mine on the West Coast dispute this claim, stating that the declining levels of perchlorate in our water/soil indicate a rate of decay that would point to a contamination far earlier than when these displays started.) Another very likely source of conamination could possiblybe Chilean bat guano as American farmers were heavy users of this as afertilizer well into the early half of the 1900's. Because of the heavy use of perchlorate by the military, much of the information about perchlorate isdifficult to track down unless you know where to look. Blessings in Christ's mercy, Melody"I love to think of nature as an unlimited broadcasting station, throughwhich God speaks to us every hour, if we will only tune in." ~George Washington Carver -----Original Message----- From: "Kitty" [kmrsy@comcast.net] Date: 08/02/2008 08:41 PM To: gardenchat@hort.net Subject: Re: [CHAT] did you knowI needed to order some more natural amendments and I usually get them from Nitron. While perusing Nitron's list, I came across Bat Guano, which gave meWhat prompted this research?a laugh because... While at work a couple of weeks ago 2 women I don't know came up fromanother office to see our Chief Deputy and the woman at the desk behind me. When they finished talking shop one mentioned her bat houses and started telling them all about bat guava. I just had to interupt her and correct guava to guano, guava being a fruit. They were all amazed and not quite believing that anyone would collect it or that it had valuable properties, so of course I explained that I use cricket crap for my bulbs. That reallyhad them going! Kitty neIN, Zone 5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer" <islandjim1@comcast.net>; To: <gardenchat@hort.net>; Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] did you knowInteresting. What prompted this research? When I was 9 or 10, guano imports from South America were still a big deal. I remember learning about it in probably the 4th grade. On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Kitty wrote:The history of Bat Guano and American ExpansionStemming from the Incan language (Quichua) for "bird droppings", guano is thought to have been used for centuries in both South American and Pacific Islander civilizations. The Incas discovered that bat rookeriesestablished on nearby island chains contained vast amounts of this excellent soil fertilizer, which were easily accessible and providedamazing results when used on corn and bean crops. Spanish explorers tookboth the word and the practice back with them to Europe. Guano soon became a valuable commodity, rivaling only gold in its value as an import of the new world.Later, American farmers eagerly took to using Bat Guano as well, with Congress going so far as establishing the Guano Island Act in 1856. Thisact secured future guano supplies by allowing ocean islands to beclaimed as territories in the name of harvesting guano. Incidentally,many currently owned American Territories were established in thismanner such as Johnson Atoll and the famous Midway Island, which servedas an important forward base of operations during World War II. It wasn't until after the invention of gunpowder that early chemists discovered that components of bat guano also lent itself to theproduction of powerful explosives. Guano harvesting was increased as themilitary found a new use for the unorthodox fertilizer. Bat guano operations began to spring up all across the world, from the remotecorners of New Zealand to the depths of the Grand Canyon, and they havecontinued in production ever since.Today, Bat guano is still in use as both a fertilizer and a component of some ammunitions. Bat guano has even been taken into space aboard theMercury and Gemini space capsules, and was used as the propellant todeploy the radio transmission antennas after splashdown. Bat guano may have originally been a discovery of the ancients, but its usefulness formodern society can still be seen today. I bet Cathy knew all this. 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