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Re: succulents


Holy smoly Batman.  Jim you and I go back a long way and I have hardly ever
disagreed with you but on this one man I have to say something.  Pink Mealy
bug is killing huge sections of citrus both in So Cal. and Fl.  I personally
know several nurseries that were closed because the perscribed method of
eradication is burning the plants.  The glassy winged sharpshooter carries
Pierce disease which can wipe out vineyards and while I don't think our Ag.
dept is filled with the brightest lights but they have spent millions to keep
it out of Sonoma/Napa area as well as most of Nor Cal.  Two more examples are
the Apple Moth, a new transplant from Australia or New Zealand and of course
SOD or Sudden Oak Death Syndrome which is wiping out oak forests here and
elsewhere.  
Hibiscus are a trivial crop no doubt but they are passed around
all over the world but what isn't a trivial crop is cotton which hibiscus are
related to and quite easily pass diseases from one to another.
Hey, it's a
small world and I suppose that all of this stuff will eventually circle the
earth but if anybody is concerned with spreading noxious plants, pests and
disease the unregulated sharing of plants in a informal and careless way will
certainly hurry things right along.  But you're right!!  The winner in the
short run is Monsanto!



----- Original Message ----
From: james singer
<islandjim1@comcast.net>
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 13,
2008 6:56:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] succulents

I think you overstate your
case, David. The pink mealybug is only a  
pest of consequence on hibiscus.
And I think we can agree that while  
hibiscus is a nice plant, it's really a
trivial crop. And the biggest  
problem with the glassy wing sharpshooter
seems to be that it poops on  
automobiles and causes an unsightly mess. These
two scourges may  
excite the chemists at Monsanto, but I fail to see why they
have any  
significance at all.

On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:12 PM, David Franzman
wrote:

> Hi Jim
> Your good point brings up another aspect of plant
>
buying/selling/trading and that is that for many species of plants  
>
(hibiscus
> among them) it's illegal to trade across national/state borders 
> without
> licenses.  Uninspected material crossing zones and regions can  
>
spread disease
> and pests that can spread to other plants with no natural
defense.  
> Daves
> Garden and other sites unwittingly facilitate this
trafficking.  The  
> Pink
> Mealy Bug in Florida and the Glassy Wing
Sharpshooter in California  
> are two
> such pests that have devastated
millions in crops in the last few  
> years.
> Worse yet are the viruses and
bacteria that are unseen that gets  
> shipped to
> unsuspecting recipients. 
If you suspect a problem with a plant you  
> receive
> burn it without
question.
> Man, am I a bummer.  Now then Andrea?  I think I
> promised you a
bromeliad.  They are looking really good!
> David
>
>


Never attribute to
cleverness what can easily be explained by stupidity.
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