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- Subject: Re: Advice needed
- From: k* <c*@aol.com>
- Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 11:32:45 -0400 (EDT)
Great response, Barb. I second your thoughts on "tuning out". Kathy -----Original Message----- From: sundrops <sundrops@earthlink.net> To: gardenchat <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:15 pm Subject: Re: [CHAT] Advice needed Hi Auralie -- this was interesting to me because at the risk of sounding like a brat, I can imagine being in such a class, learning a lot of other "more practical" details, methods, and information, and getting to a question like that and saying, "who cares, if I ever need to know this I will look it up then." I think Kathy may also be correct, strange as it seems, in people not being clear what "distinguishing feature" means. (I'm also not sure what a "competitive class" means, do the students?) Who is taking this class -- is it part of an academic series, serious lay people, a vocational class, for master gardeners, or what? If your class is really super-packed with many different topics and in depth on many topics, people will tune out on some portions. I took several classes at a local junior college, in horticulture, just for my own interest, not for credit. I remember in particular the Tree class tried to cover much too much. including advanced arborist techniques, and there were several sections where I just tuned out. If your classes are not for credit I especially think people are going to pick and choose what they retain even short term. If these are for academic credit, I might re-word the question something like, "a friend wants to exhibit ----. In line with the native plant policy, what would you adivse her?" At least you might elicit the answer to check with the society. Hope this helps, I could just see myself in this situation -- --Barb Tandy, Grass Valley CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aplfgcnys@aol.com> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:22 PM Subject: [CHAT] Advice needed > If there's still anyone out there, please give me some words of advice on > a > problem I have. > In the Horticulture School series I have been running for years, I always > include a segment on the New York State Protected Plant List. The state > list is quite lengthy, but the Federated Garden Clubs of New York State > (FGCNYS) have prepared a selected list of those plants that might just > appear in flower shows - a one-page list that is easy to tuck into your > Handbook. It is considered that the rest of the state list are either > wild > flowers that wouldn't be suitable, or are so rare that they would never > be seen. The FGCNYS policy reads: > Plants named on the New York State list, "Protected Native Plants," > cannot be exhibited in competitive classes, except in Special Exhibits > Division as an Educational Exhibit. Such plants must have been > acquired in a lawful manner, and may be cut specimens and/or > container-grown plants. > Commercially developed hybrids or cultivars (NOT NATURAL VARIETIES) > of plants on the NY list are permitted in competitive classes, but ONLY > when the DISTINGUISHING FEATURE is evident. > > I helped write this policy more than 20 years ago, and have been trying to > teach it in the Horticulture Schools ever since. This year there have > already > been three schools, and three more are scheduled. As State Chairman, I > write > the exams for the schools. On each exam I include one question on the > Protected Plant List. Many times the question reads: > > . May a branch of Cornus florida bCherokee Chiefb be exhibited in a > flower show in a class of flowering branches. Explain. > The answer, of course would be Yes, if the branch was in bloom, because > the > Distinguishing Feature, that is the red blooms, would be evident. If it > were not > in bloom, it could not be exibited. > > My problem is that more and more often I will get maybe one correct answer > from each ten students. The answers I got this spring were so depressing > that > I have resolved to make a greater effort to get the point across. I > wonder > if > some of you knowledgable people can give me a clue as to where the problem > lies. To me, the concept is quite simple, but why do so many seem to miss > it? > These students are usually pretty alert to Horticultural matters - after > all, it is a > fairly specialized series. I would really appreciate any thoughts on the > matter. > Auralie > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the > message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
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